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Masks Work. Really. We’ll Show You How

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Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr. Jon LaPook about Covid-19 – Masks are only important for infected people to protect others. There is no reason to wear masks and it might even make people MORE sick: https://www.bitchute.com/video/G4EqLeo3xoU3/

Fauci said himself he lied lol.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virus is too small to be contained by masks that were never meant to be used for this purpose. They have no virus filter. Biohazard suit will help you with virus. This masks wont. masks alone have no significant effect in interrupting the spread of ILI or influenza in the general population, nor in healthcare workers: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-...

Your pants do not protect your from someone else urinating on you but they definitely make it harder for you to do it to someone else, especially by accident. Sorry to be crude.

The problem with this argument is that it relies on people to be altruistic, which I suspect is already negatively correlated with mask wearing.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr. Jon LaPook about Covid-19 – Masks are only important for infected people to protect others. There is no reason to wear masks and it might even make people MORE sick: https://www.bitchute.com/video/G4EqLeo3xoU3/

That interview is from March. Understanding of COVID has moved on. Are you still running software from March on all your devices or just your brain?

Scientific studies have not proven that masks are effective in limiting the spread of the virus. Quite a lot EU countries suggest they can do more harm than good if used sloppily. Masks and covid in the US have become political issue riddled with pseudo science from all sides.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That interview is from March. Understanding of COVID has moved on. Are you still running software from March on all your devices or just your brain?

Scientific studies have not proven that masks are effective in limiting the spread of the virus. Quite a lot EU countries suggest they can do more harm than good if used sloppily. Masks and covid in the US have become political issue riddled with pseudo science from all sides.

There’s more studies than controlled ones.

Sociological studies strongly suggest that masks do work.

For example, there was a recent study that compared COVID hospitalization rates of districts in Tennessee that had mask mandates vs those which didn’t and the areas with mask mandates had significantly lower disease spread.

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The headline says "masks work", then the article redefines masks to exclude the things that many people are wearing, and then adds further criteria that rules out most other people. It then fails to take into account research that shows that cotton masks become saturated with exhaled moisture and perspiration, and that stops their filtering properties. It also fails to take into account reductions in social distancing or handwashing.

So, yes, if we have a tight definition of both "masks" and "work" we can say that masks work. But we don't care if a piece of fabric can catch droplets, we care if public use of masks in a pandemic helps slow the spread of that disease.

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Are we really having this discussion on Hacker News? As Hackers we should all be MATHing and SCIENCEing

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8

This article has some good links to studies and articles, some math and science.

It also points out you don't even have to science very much, there is lots of anecdotal evidence that shows that in gatherings where masks are worn, transmission is slowed.

Lot's of other factors play into that, but you only have to math a wee tiny bit to realize that properly worn masks can help fewer people be infected, and therefore fewer people will die.

MATH.

This has some nice visualizations based on anecdotal evidence and statistical analysis and compares transmission rates in different settings given the variables of masks wearing vs. no masks and ventilation vs no ventilation, while also taking into account surface based transmission.

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-a...

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It's shocking, especially on a scientific forum like HN, that people get so triggered over being asked to wear a teensy extra bit of clothing that might protect those around them from dying.

Show me the science.

We have lots of RCTs on mask wearing (mostly in healthcare professionals) and they struggle to find a benefit.

People should wear masks, masks may help, but it's unhelpful when people misrepresent the strength of the evidence.

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