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Re: Sean Connery has died

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Love his stage presence, but do check out his interview with Barbara Walters. He had some seriously crazy views on how to treat women. https://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA

A guy born in 1930 has some outdated views about something. Why do you even feel the need to mention it? Does it makes you feel better with yourself?

Re: Sean Connery has died

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Classy... except for when he talked about physically assaulting women and how that's no big deal.

I think one has to separate the person from the art. It’s the same with book “burnings”: because now the author has an unpopular opinion. It’s ridiculous.

This is not about the art, it is about the man. While he was a great actor, style icon, artist, and had a tremendously interesting life, he was also quite explicitly misogynistic in several interviews.

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Whenever someone of this stature goes, I tend to gather together their films, what I have of them, and work through them. So here I am looking at Outland (which isn't as terrible as Harlan Ellison said but goodness it isn't great), Zardoz , In the Name of the Rose , The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (it's fun, I will grant it that), Time Bandits and was left wondering: what films had his iconic performances? What…

The Rock! I consider it his best film but opinions are of course opinions.

I wouldn't underestimate the thief character he played in "Entrapment" (though the movie in itself was IMHO so-and-so), which is clearly derived/has connections with the one in "The rock".

And there are some memorable quotes:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137494/quotes/?tab=qt&ref_=tt_...

I like the "It's impossible. But doable." and the "I'm never late. If I'm late it's because I'm dead."

Re: Sean Connery has died

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The best James Bond is George Lazenby. Sean Connery was fantastic in "The Man who would be a king" and in "The last crusade".

Yes, and the best “Bond girl” is Diana Rigg, also in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, and who also sadly died recently.

Sadly, Connery didn't play roles at the age Diana Rigg did (eg Lady Olenna)

Re: Sean Connery has died

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RIP (the best James Bond.. a fantastic actor!!)

The best James Bond is George Lazenby. Sean Connery was fantastic in "The Man who would be a king" and in "The last crusade".

I have to agree with you here. I grew up with Brosnan but Lazenby has more class to me.

On the other hand Connery defined Bond.

Re: Sean Connery has died

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Whenever someone of this stature goes, I tend to gather together their films, what I have of them, and work through them. So here I am looking at Outland (which isn't as terrible as Harlan Ellison said but goodness it isn't great), Zardoz , In the Name of the Rose , The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (it's fun, I will grant it that), Time Bandits and was left wondering: what films had his iconic performances? What…

I think it's probably important with Connery just to accept him as the man and actor that he was, rather than worrying about his range - whether he was playing Bond, or King Arthur in the execrable "First Knight", or a Russian submarine commander, he was always the same handsome, suave man with an unmistakable Scottish accent: that, in itself, was his great achievement. But he definitely wasn't a method actor or particularly dynamic.

Re: Sean Connery has died

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I think one has to separate the person from the art. It’s the same with book “burnings”: because now the author has an unpopular opinion. It’s ridiculous.

This is not about the art, it is about the man. While he was a great actor, style icon, artist, and had a tremendously interesting life, he was also quite explicitly misogynistic in several interviews.

I get that. We can criticize that aspect surely. However, if you like the performance like it. Disconnect the person from the performance and from the larger context (his movies were complicit in sexism).

Look, consensual people can engage in degrading stuff, but we don’t come down on that because we believe that’s a private matter between consenting adults.

Re: Sean Connery has died

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Merchant Navy, milkman, nude model, lifeguard, truck driver, bricklayer, boxer, bodybuilder, street brawler (he once beat a gang of four while hanging out with Michael Caine, and another time, he defeated six people in a street fight.) ... ... and, finally, backstage maintenance worker at the King’s Theatre in Edinburgh. The rest is history.- A 20th century icon.- RIP.-

Don’t forget he was also an unapologetic advocate of spousal abuse, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXkbJwrN38

Any living person can hold a reprehensible point of view, and as much as I may disagree with it, I really can't stand this attitude of writing people off because of a flawed perspective. That doesn't mean I support spousal abuse by association, it means I recognise he has a shitty point of view amongst all of his other flaws, as well as his qualities.

There isn't a single person in history that can meet this standard of 'goodness'. Not you, nor I, nor anyone. So yeah, let's acknowledge people for all that they are, good and bad, but let's not reduce people to a two dimensional caricature of themselves based purely on what is now considered unacceptable.

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