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Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by dkarl »

Doenjang and cheonggukjang (Korean fermented soybean products) are reputed to contain B12 and other B vitamins. They might be price-competitive with eggs, and they'd certainly add some welcome taste and variety. Unfortunately, I can't find any source for nutrition information. One would think they would be similar to natto, which has very impressive stats:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-produ...

However, natto apparently doesn't contain much B12. Natto would be harder to find anyway (and harder to find cheap) since most large cities have Korean grocery stores that cater to budget-conscious customers. If you're looking for cheap, nutritious food, a trip to your local Korean store would be worthwhile for the chance to buy cheap rice and check out the nutrition information on the plastic tubs of doenjang. The cheonggukjang I've bought has not had nutrition information on the label, but it ought to be similar to doenjang or maybe natto.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by aberkowitz »

dkarl wrote: post #263
mmaunder wrote: post #22

My wife and I tried to do this recently on $1.70 per person per day. We didn't last our intended 28 days. A few observations we found: Meat and organic food was too expensive. Fruit is crazy expensive so we bought OJ from concentrate with no additives as a cheap source of Vitamin C. Eggs were are very expensive, but we needed the protein and nutrients, so rationed ourselves to 3 each per week. We had to remove all su…

Sugar crash is a good sign. If you stop constantly pumping sugar into your body, your body will eventually starting maintaining your blood sugar on its own -- which is how it's supposed to work. Starving writers have been known to buy horse meat at pet stores. I wonder if that's still legal? Also, I wonder if organ meats are cheap, since they're so unpopular in the U.S.? They can be very nutrient-rich. Lentils and ri…

> your body will eventually starting maintaining your blood sugar on its own

I was under the impression that a sugar crash is the result of your body maintaining your blood sugar on it's own[0].

[0] On it's own, meaning secreting insulin from the pancreas to maintain homeostasis.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by zach »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #297
zach wrote: post #277

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It's hard to know enough to say definitively what the culprit is. That's why Taubes is mostly content to argue merely the cause of increased obesity is located within the high-carbohydrate aspect of the modern diet. But even that has been a controversial enough position. The problem could be primarily that the Kool-Aid, fruit juice, Tang, soda and Sunny Delight (and other sweet food like sugared-up yogurt and maybe e…

But we can be quite sure that the suspect(s) is a carbohydrate. How can we be so sure? The most obvious culprit is total calories. From 1980 to the present, total caloric consumption increased by 500 calories/day (see table 1 of my report). Coincidentally, obesity increased over the same period. But lets ignore that. Carb consumption decreased , both as a fraction of diet and in absolute numbers. Obesity increased .…

First off, I think this is good data and commend you for going back to the numbers to make your point. It's not perfect data - as the report says, by nature it's overstating actual consumption - but for short-term trends it is valuable.

But I don't see where gross carbohydrates are decreasing in Table 1. It seems like they went from 420g in the 80's (from under 400g in the 70's) to 480 or so a decade ago.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

lsc wrote: post #287
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #273

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>I find it amusing that the guy who has two double-shot lattes a day just likes coffee, I find it amusing that you say that, since I never implied any such thing. My father drinks coffee every morning and is a grump without it. He's just as much of an addict as someone who takes coffee pills. Trust me, I'm not one to use the "addiction" word as a scare word or to pass judgement. Though I do find it funny how often HN…

>I find it amusing that you say that, since I never implied any such thing. really? because four servings of coffee a day doesn't seem that much over the median dose, at least among people I know, if you adjust for body size. When I'm on, I consume more caffeine than that. So, to me, suggesting that someone has a problem when the dosage is that close to the median suggests that you are criticizing the delivery method…

I'm not criticizing the medium at all. In terms of health benefits, eating a caffeine pill is healthier than consuming the equivalent amount of coffee. No doubt alcohol withdrawl is worse, but if we're performing comparative metrics, I can vaporize cannabis for two months straight and stop all of the sudden without so much as a thought. I drank a twelve pack of coke across 4 days and had headaches for that Friday and Saturday.

I just don't know what you want me to say. It's not an addiction? Okay. Do you feel better? It's a chemical stimulant that you notice when you stop consuming it. You consume it so that you stay functional.

You can sugar coat it or say that it's not like being addicted to alcohol, but it doesn't change the fact that if you cut it out for a few weeks, you'd be more productive without the cost, dependency or negative side effects of coffee. The fact that you KNOW that, and continue to drink it, quite frankly supports the notion that it's an addiction.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by nickpp »

shareme wrote: post #199
nickpp wrote: post #198

No omega-3 oils. No greens. No fruit. That can't be healthy...

over loading on fructose, sucrose, etc in combination with high fat high carbohydrates diets are not healthy.\ The beans have a low glysemic index(spelling) compared to other carbohydrates. As far as greens, maybe romaine lettuce as lettuce wrap dishes..such as mix beans, tofu, low amount of lean meat, and herbs to taste..

Greens like spinach, salads, kale, cabbage. Leafy greens. Have low carbs but lots of nutrients and fiber. You think they can be absent in a healthy diet?

Fruit - who said overloading? Maybe a few every few days. Our ancestors did eat then when they could find them.

Omega3s - I never heard anything bad about them.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

georgieporgie wrote: post #293
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #274

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Are you kidding? You're taking a stimulant to get through the day and when one form of it is taken away, you supplement with another form. How is that different than a junkie getting their fix to stave off withdrawl? You don't need to get defensive about it, but if you're taking a concentrated form of a drug to get through your day... and you notice when you don't take it... that's the definition of an addiction.

You're taking a stimulant to get through the day Come again? This is news to me. when one form of it is taken away, you supplement with another form. Again, what? I decided to try caffeine in a pill form and found that I mostly prefer it to the coffee form. Nothing was taken away. How is that different than a junkie getting their fix to stave off withdrawl For starters, because I don't experience any withdrawl. You d…

I can't get over the amount of defending people do here of DOSING caffeine. Your first comment was specifically talking about the psychological effects that you're getting from the chemical stimulant caffeine. You find that going to the pure, drug-only, form of it is better for you. You clearly consume it for the stimulant effects, or why else would you take it.

> someone who is physiologically dependent on a substance; abrupt deprivation of the substance produces withdrawal symptoms

If you can quit caffeine when you're taking 400mg and NOT experience any side effects, go see a doctor because you're a modern miracle. It's a stimulant, you take it regularly. If it's not an addiction... it's certainly a habit that you seem to be unwilling to give up.

Note that NO where did I say it was a bad thing. I mean, it costs money, but I'm sure it's not a lot. I was merely curious if you'd actually tried to stop consuming caffeine. The response taking offense at me calling it precisely what it is... is telling in my armchair-psychiatrist opinion.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by infinite8s »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #212
jasonlotito wrote: post #202

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Different types of carbs, man, different types of carbs. =)

So processed white flour [1] isn't the culprit? Good to know. Maybe the real culprit in the obesity epidemic is fats, oils, and sugar. It certainly fits the data. [1] At the beginning of the century, whole wheat flour was uncommon except in rural areas. It spoiled too quickly.

At the beginning of the century, most people lived in rural areas. [1]

[1] http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/WUP2005/2005wu...

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by bradgessler »

lsc wrote: post #73
bradgessler wrote: post #40

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Where do you buy those beans at? Online or a local coffee joint?

I get mine at http://www.sweetmarias.com - they have info on roasting using a popcorn popper and other cool things.

Oh wow, this is awesome, they're right down the street from me. Thanks!

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by pageman »

phlux wrote: post #126
mmaunder wrote: post #22

My wife and I tried to do this recently on $1.70 per person per day. We didn't last our intended 28 days. A few observations we found: Meat and organic food was too expensive. Fruit is crazy expensive so we bought OJ from concentrate with no additives as a cheap source of Vitamin C. Eggs were are very expensive, but we needed the protein and nutrients, so rationed ourselves to 3 each per week. We had to remove all su…

I would love to find a community of like minded individuals in the bay area that meetup regularly to shop in bulk and divide. We did this on reddit recently with herbs/spices sold in bulk where people basically committed 20 bux and got a healthy personal portion of the loot. It would be great to do the same with a costco bill....

is there a startup that can do this (it's like Groupon but emphasizing on buying health products in bulk)

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by jrockway »

shareme wrote: post #201
jrockway wrote: post #36

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Fruits cost more than $3. I think the real problem, though, is that the whole "sugar is poison" has gone to everyone's head, and it's now socially unacceptable to recommend anything containing sugar. The problem is that fruits have a lot of fiber wrapped around that sugar, while soda does not. Have a cup of blueberries with breakfast, an avacado and some tomatoes at lunch, and strawberries for desert. A few servings…

It only works if thin, if slightly overweight or overweight one has to reduce all sugar intake and carbohydrates to re-adjust the body's insulin trigger levels. Simple test ..consume some carbohydrates..if one-half to one hour later you get sleepy to the point of napping you should have your health checked..

Reduce, yes. That doesn't mean "don't have blueberries on your cereal". It means "don't have a slice of cake and wash it down with a coke".
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