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Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#161

I agree on contributing back to a community and there's many ways to do that. That's not every producer's motivation though. Some do this to get paid and it makes sense to publish behind a paywall to do so. Follow up question. What are opinions on publishing technical books?

This is a great followup question.

I don't have an opinion on technical books. I buy them. I have ebooks from Amazon to iBooks, to Manning, Apress, Pragprog ....

I don't have something against paying. I have something against subscription paywall. I pay this month and I read something. Then next month if I want to read my subscription needs to be valid.

A book once bought I can read it anytime I want.

Also my main thing is not even with paywall.

It is a trend I saw which I think it makes the path of self-through beginner harder. Also Medium started to appear from time to time higher than other resources.

I am working with some people who are trying to switch to IT and I usually need to explain to them either how to open Medium to read the article or how to go to next resources. I am pretty sure some of them are spending time navigating information. Yes, maybe the solution is to say: go and make a subscription to Medium, but it just raises the bar of entering the IT.

Then my second thing is this: what happens with all that content when Medium decides to go away (pivot, close ...)? It will vanish like many other great content online.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#162
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For the past ~3 weeks Medium has blocked virtually every article I wanted to read and is asking me to pay. Most of these are programming tutorials related to some obscure Rails features. Honestly, I feel like Medium is the worse place to put your content. EDIT: For context, I don’t mind people monetizing their content, but in that case I’d rather pay them directly (like GoRails), and not a “subscription” for somethin…

Not the best solution - but I post it on twitter and use that link to access the article(since Medium paywalled article is free through twitter) and delete the tweet in few seconds later.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#163

Personal websites are great and I’ve been trying to put more content on my own personal website (I made nine decent-size posts this month, and I’m happy with that). HOWEVER, Running a personal website is a time sink and it can become a real pain as time goes on. It’s not a problem to create a personal website and shove a few HTML files on there, or set up a Wordpress installation, or create something with Jekyll. Tha…

Congrats on creating content on your personal website. I am trying with my own but I still dont have a good habit in place to write.

I agree that running a personal website is a time sink.

But there are many other options like: Github/Gitlab Pages, Medium ....

Persoanlly, I prefer simple HTML pages or Markdown. Plain HTML will render easy many years from now. They are easy to transfer and hard to get lost between migrations.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#164
I subscribed to Medium briefly during the lockdown and the content was truly, utterly, awful. Terrible writing drowned out the good and great, reams of tripe, inane nonsense everywhere, and advertised like crazy to me. After a few weeks of this, I cancelled and subscribed to some actual magazines with some actual experts.

So quite apart from the nagging annoyance of being unable to access various padded-out articles (tip: private browsing FTW), this has highlighted that a need from 20 years ago hasn't changed: the world still needs better editors.

If the bigger newspapers like NTY, WAPO, The Cardigan would get behind tech in this way AND provide editing and curation, it'd be amazing. Maybe.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#165
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medium has for me become a signal for "likely shallow and low quality".

Whats for you the signal for high quality?

No single thing unfortunately. But as an example in contrast to Medium, articles published on github.io with simple HTML often seem to be a bit higher quality.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#166

There's an interesting tradeoff here, to say the least. Writers want readers. So to some, it's worth sacrificing universal accessibility to gain all of the advantages Medium has to offer. There just aren't many reasonable, free alternatives for publishing written technical. Medium handles SEO and makes it super simple writers who don't know how to host their own content otherwise to get their ideas in public. Plus, r…

Yes, I think you are spot on regarding the motivation of writers. This is why I was thinking to write this request here, where there are a lot of technical people who can run their own websites.

Regarding standardized format, yes this is true. I don't have a rebuttal. I think it depends on the job to be done by the reader. For me getting to the information is more important than the format.

I learn things even by reading text mailing-lists.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#167
> you are putting them behind a paywall

Read this:

https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018677974

Quote: If you are a writer enrolled in the Partner Program, when you click Publish on a story, you will be prompted to choose whether to make your post eligible to earn money as part of Medium’s metered paywall. [...]

Only writers in the Partner Program see this checkbox. Stories from writers who are not enrolled in the Partner Program will no longer be part of the metered paywall.

So authors obviously have the choice whether their tutorial is behind the metered paywall or not. Here an example of a free article: https://medium.com/@rochus.keller/implementing-call-by-refer.... Can you access it or not?

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#168
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. I'm just wondering what the sentiment is. I've obviously struck a nerve. "Oh no paywall!" for a site that pays its authors. Now, if it ripped the authors off or engaged in other shitty tactics, then that's one thing. But nobody is responding with that kind of information. It's all a response against the paywalls, and I'm trying to figure out if it's knee-jerk or not. I mean, aren't people allowed to make a livi…

> I mean, aren't people allowed to make a living by teaching others? Absolutely good point! I think if I were to rephrase the submitter's comment in a way that aligned with my own views and concerns, it would be: If your intent is to put information into the world for others to share purely out of charity/a desire to help others, or to get your name out, please consider options other than Medium, as Medium is ultimat…

I strongly agree with the part about the purpose of sharing the information:

I am buying from time to time website-based tutorials or other type of content. I agree this creates a new problem: I don't even know what I bought in the last years, what kind of online live books with exercises I bought and from where. I try to keep them in a document, but sometimes I forget and search email to find out.

Still I would like to ask that if someone just wants to share information and it is not focused on monetization then please consider other options than Medium.

A lot of newcomers will not make a subscription there.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#169
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get the reach? Reach is worth something.

Twitter? Reddit? Hacker News? Are you really trying to make the case that Medium is the only way people find and read content?

Many Reddit subs have been discouraging people from posting their own content for years now, and the reach you get on Twitter is entirely dependent on who's in your network. Hacker News is probably the second-best option to Medium since both are about as democratic, but Medium has more readers.

Re: Ask HN: Please stop writing tutorials/tech articles on Medium

#170
Medium's popularity a few years ago prompted an idea for me. I wanted to be able to remove all links to domains I knew I never wanted to visit from all pages because I kept wasting time accidentally clicking them, not realizing where they were going.

I had hoped to pull it off with uBlock Origin but I couldn't get the filters to do what I wanted. I ended up making a Firefox add-on that takes a regex and some css, searches all attribute values and/or text for a match, and applies the css to the element with the match.

So, I have a regex for a handful of popular domains I never want to see and matched elements get "visibility: hidden". The result is that I never see a link to Medium. In fact, I usually forget the site exists until someone mentions it without linking to it, which is almost always a post about how Medium sucks :) Same for all the other domains in the list.

The plugin works on Firefox for Android, so I've enjoyed the benefits there as well. However, I expect that to be a problem soon. I don't do much browsing on my phone anyway.

It's only designed for personal use, so the interface is terrible, but I had to submit it to the official add-on repository because there's no reasonable way to run an add-on locally for practical every-day use, so it is available for anyone to use [1]. Source [2].

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ssure/

[2] https://github.com/7w0/ssure

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