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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Most Muslims seem to manage it annually.

Not really. They gorge themselves at night, so unlimited calories basically.

That’s true, and it sort of misses the point of Ramadan.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…

I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

Just anecdotal, but I did 12-8 fasting for a few months and it was not at all effective. I was starving half the day and didn't lose any weight at all. Mornings were tough and I was achy and cranky by 11am. 3 months in and my body never adjusted. I switched back to a normal meal schedule and felt better and didn't change weight up or down.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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And possibly giving charity each year

tbh I think the practice of giving away flat-rate 2.5% of their wealth each year instead of 40-50% brackets would encourage more wealthy people to actually donate and not dodge taxes.

If instead of taking money for taxes, we actually paid them 1% interest per year, we'd get 100% participation. Probably more than 100%.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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I have every coffee making gimmick from the chemex to the aeropress and I guarantee you would fail a blind test on which one is which, or if the cups of coffee are even different. I mean, what exactly is the mechanical difference of putting hot water through coffee grounds and a filter that differs when you do it in an aeropress vs. a dripper? And you think you're tasting enough of a difference to say one is horrible…

> I guarantee you would fail a blind test on which one is which, or if the cups of coffee are even different. Oddly enough, I've actually done a blind taste test on multiple coffee systems systems: drip, aeropress, chemex (pour over), italian percolator, french press, keurig, manual espresso machine, and real espresso machine. We controlled for water temperature and mass, steep time, coffee type, coffee grind (with e…

That's cool. It would be nice if you published protocol and data via blog or even .md file github pages.

I think humanity could benefit a lot from more citizen sience, especially in non-fundable Arras (such as coffie brewing/tasting ;)

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

Just anecdotal, but I did 12-8 fasting for a few months and it was not at all effective. I was starving half the day and didn't lose any weight at all. Mornings were tough and I was achy and cranky by 11am. 3 months in and my body never adjusted. I switched back to a normal meal schedule and felt better and didn't change weight up or down.

Do you have to get up quite early in the morning? Only reason I ask is because half the day being the time until 12 is surprising -- after your midday meal, if you've constructed your meal properly, you should ideally not be hungry until dinner. I think IF needs to be paired with a mindfulness about what you're eating -- having toast with butter for lunch will not work.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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"for four consecutive weeks"

that's the key to this whole things, is that you have to stick with it for at least 4 weeks. i know quite a few people who have tried IF and rarely do they make it through the first week without cheating (including myself when i first started). IF is one of _the_ best ways to lost weight in my opinion (second only to hot yoga), but the key is that you have to very regime with it and follow it precisely in order to get the benefits. you cannot have _any_ calories what so ever in order to trigger the fast response of the body. even taking vitamins or protein powders breaks the fast. also most non-calorie drinks do contain calories just not in a single serving (which is VERY deceptive), so the best things to drink is just plain cold water through out the day.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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800 is far too low for that amount of time unless you weight like 80lbs. 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance.

> 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance. This is only true up to a point. A colleague put me onto a fasting method called “Buchinger’s Fasting”. I fasted for around a week and a half, muscle maintenance was not a concern. After 3 days, your body burns through the glucose reserves and you get brain fog. After that, indeed, your body tried to break down muscle mass for fuel. The tric…

ahh here's how to do it, you don't need to go to buchinger:

https://youtu.be/_ZG6lCgpPcA?t=480

wake up, do exercise, drink warm beverage, work, wait for hunger, eat breakfast/midday, take a powernap, work, last meal at 5-6pm.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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"Dawn to Sunset" laughs nervously in Scandinavian So we can't eat anything in the summer, as the sun doesn't really go down? :) On the other hand, we can gorge ourselves during winter.

That ambiguity irked me, too. The full text[1] mentions collecting serum samples from participants "after at least 8 h of fasting," and that the study was conducted from early May to early June at Baylor in Houston, which would make for a ~14 hour fast each day.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-73767-w

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…

I think there was a study done with similar levels of calories restriction and the results were the exact same.
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