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Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by StavrosK »

papa_bear wrote: post #261
StavrosK wrote: post #190

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That's a fantastic app, but it seems to report that we need to eat about 1000 calories/day (both for me and my family members) more than other calculators... Any idea why?

I found it a little high too, so I may switch the equation for another one but I'm not sure yet. I originally made the site specific to gaining weight for lifters (hence the name), and the high weight gain calorie values seem to make sense for the most part, but I do think the weight loss and maintenance values are still a little high for most people.

I agree, and I don't think you should focus only on the "gaining weight" part, since most people want to lose weight.

That said, I assume that the diet produced is balanced and thus good for people who train for strength/lifters, not just people who want to fill out a bit? If so, it will be indispensable to me, as I am doing SS and need something like it. Right now I just sort of eat all the meat, eggs and almonds I can find.

EDIT: Is the site down? I can't access it.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by hammock »

PagingCraig wrote: post #229
danssig wrote: post #218

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Good lord, is the point of this kind of thing to see how much money you can move from your food budget into your health care budget? Of all the places to save money, food is the absolute last on my list.

Yes someone gets it. You shouldn't be skimping on quality food, it's your body! Also 10% protein is kinda low :(

This diet is pretty much the standard in many poor parts of the world - rice, beans, and fresh vegetables (in season). Billions of people across the planet have figured out that it's cheap and nutritious. Glad he could figure it out on his own too.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

lsc wrote: post #195
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #172

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That's quite an addiction you have. Have you considered kicking it?

I find it amusing that the guy who has two double-shot lattes a day just likes coffee, but the guy who takes the same amount of caffeine in pill form has 'quite an addiction' when they are both consuming the same amount of the drug in question.

>I find it amusing that the guy who has two double-shot lattes a day just likes coffee,

I find it amusing that you say that, since I never implied any such thing. My father drinks coffee every morning and is a grump without it. He's just as much of an addict as someone who takes coffee pills. Trust me, I'm not one to use the "addiction" word as a scare word or to pass judgement. Though I do find it funny how often HN is anti-drug about things that are less dangerous and addictive than some recreational drugs.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by drivebyacct2 »

georgieporgie wrote: post #260
drivebyacct2 wrote: post #172

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That's quite an addiction you have. Have you considered kicking it?

Please do explain how taking 400mg of caffeine per day constitutes an addiction. I also take a daily multivitamin that contains ginseng, and a 'super' vitamin B pill. The latter makes the biggest difference in energy levels. I guess I'm 'addicted' to vitamin B, as well.

Are you kidding? You're taking a stimulant to get through the day and when one form of it is taken away, you supplement with another form.

How is that different than a junkie getting their fix to stave off withdrawl? You don't need to get defensive about it, but if you're taking a concentrated form of a drug to get through your day... and you notice when you don't take it... that's the definition of an addiction.

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Post by camiller »

Klinky wrote: post #91
r0s wrote: post #53

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> we found a few "living on a dollar a day" blogs, but every single one bought in bulk and then calculated the cost of each scoop they took out of the bin. What's wrong with that? It's by far the cheapest way to cook. Bulk makes buying organic cheap too, as long as you don't shop at supermarkets. They have a habit of avoiding organic brands that are price-competitive with existing products.

You have to store those products somewhere. 25lb - 50lb bags or buckets of flour, rice, beans and/or other dry goods are not small. Buying produce in bulk may save you money, but you must use the produce before it goes bad which can start to happen within a few days or a week.

For what it is worth 50Lbs of grain (in my case 2-row barley) fit neatly in two 5-gallon home depot buckets. And is enough base grain for five 5-gallon batches of beer.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by sp4rki »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #193
henryw wrote: post #153

Wow, the amount of protein in this diet is really low. And all those carbs may not be for everyone. This diet may be cheap, but not healthy. If you are the type of person who puts on weight easily (like me), than I would suggest doing 50% to 60%+ of your calories from protein and 20% or less from carbs. The easiest source of protein are white eggs (in a carton), chicken (pre-cooked), beans (get low sodium), and prote…

Back when our diet was 54% carbs and 12.6% fats & oils, we were a lot thinner than today (43% carbs, 24% fats & oils). https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnpp.usd...

That may be so, but being thin dies not equate being healthy. Every body is different though, and such a diet might work for you, while I need a lot more protein and a whole lot less carbs. That being said, whatever works for you or me, does not necessarily mean we're healthy.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Post by zach »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #212
jasonlotito wrote: post #202

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Different types of carbs, man, different types of carbs. =)

So processed white flour [1] isn't the culprit? Good to know. Maybe the real culprit in the obesity epidemic is fats, oils, and sugar. It certainly fits the data. [1] At the beginning of the century, whole wheat flour was uncommon except in rural areas. It spoiled too quickly.

It's hard to know enough to say definitively what the culprit is. That's why Taubes is mostly content to argue merely the cause of increased obesity is located within the high-carbohydrate aspect of the modern diet. But even that has been a controversial enough position.

The problem could be primarily that the Kool-Aid, fruit juice, Tang, soda and Sunny Delight (and other sweet food like sugared-up yogurt and maybe even infant formula) that we've been feeding our kids for the last sixty years has halfway burned out many of their metabolisms while they were still young. It may have nothing to do with wheat. But we can be quite sure that the suspect(s) is a carbohydrate.

If that's so, those folks with a permanently injured insulin response will have a need for an appropriate diet, which may not be like what metabolically-healthy individuals can enjoy. Taubes takes the position that the most effective diets for them are ones which restrict some or all carbohydrates, which is not going to give you clogged arteries like the medical establishment has been saying.

That's about it. There are definitely other places you can go (i.e. the Heart Scan Blog) if you want to see arguments for wheat as a demon of the modern diet. Yet again, that also interacts with the modern insulin resistance that wasn't as much of an issue in the 1920's.

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Post by gatlin »

mmaunder wrote: post #22

My wife and I tried to do this recently on $1.70 per person per day. We didn't last our intended 28 days. A few observations we found: Meat and organic food was too expensive. Fruit is crazy expensive so we bought OJ from concentrate with no additives as a cheap source of Vitamin C. Eggs were are very expensive, but we needed the protein and nutrients, so rationed ourselves to 3 each per week. We had to remove all su…

Quinoa is also a complete non-meat protein source.

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Post by Shorel »

learner4life wrote: post #238
allwein wrote: post #224

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>since 50-60% protein would make a lot of people want to barf. I don't think that's true. I'm currently on a diet that's fairly high in protein (and to go with the theme of the article, comes out to $4-$6 a day I believe). I don't think it's barf-worthy. Example: Breakfast: Scrambled eggs with a little salsa on top, bacon, mixed veggies Lunch: Usually salad of romaine, spinach, mixed greens, cucumbers, tomatoes, chee…

As tasty as your diet seems(and I bet it is), being Asian, I will barf within a couple of days if I did not have some rice or starch in the diet. And it has nothing to do with the food, it is just the way I have grown up. To me, a moderate protein diet is more palatable and hence more sustainable in the long run.

Been there, done that.

Yoy body will adapt if you give it the chance. Your mind, that's different.

Right now I will barf within a couple of days if I don't eat some fatty pork. I never eat rice and potatoes after 30+ years of eating them daily, and I don't miss them at all.

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Post by pyre »

hammock wrote: post #272
PagingCraig wrote: post #229

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Yes someone gets it. You shouldn't be skimping on quality food, it's your body! Also 10% protein is kinda low :(

This diet is pretty much the standard in many poor parts of the world - rice, beans, and fresh vegetables (in season). Billions of people across the planet have figured out that it's cheap and nutritious. Glad he could figure it out on his own too.

Many people in poor parts of the world get their daily B12 from fecal contamination in the water supply. It's actually an issue because cleaning up the water supply makes them deficient.
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