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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by jrwoodruff »

ganonm wrote: post #274
dstick wrote: post #239

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Bravo! And because this is HN let me add: I love seeing light hearted responses like this that elicit a smile, on HN. Where the overall tone is normally very serious :)

I disagree. I regularly downvote comments whose purpose is largely for humour. Not because they aren't funny/witty/clever, but because this is Hacker News, not Reddit. Let's keep it that way.

Humor on the internet has a weird way of spreading and just destroying any conversation. So often I go to the comments on reddit hoping for further insight or a different point of view, only to find the top three threads are memes and puns.

However, I did enjoy this limited foray into humor, and appreciate that we can seemingly keep it limited to a couple funny comments, and still have intelligent conversation.

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Post by JamesProt »

mrtksn wrote: post #164
theshrike79 wrote: post #138

"Dawn to Sunset" laughs nervously in Scandinavian So we can't eat anything in the summer, as the sun doesn't really go down? :) On the other hand, we can gorge ourselves during winter.

The islamic 40 day fasting is exactly like that and it’s fun to entertain the idea of fasting close to the poles. The fasting dates are determined by the moon calendar so it moves between extremely easy and extremely hard. Do you know if the muslims are actually going through it on hardcore level or have some kind of rationalisation for not doing it or a cheating method like sleeping all day?

It's not 40 day fasting, it's based on the moon calendar and can be between 29 and max 30 days.

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Post by dragonelite »

Nemant wrote: post #2

Welcome to Ramadan!

Funny how a lot of old religions have some components of fasting in their teaching.

For myself i go 5 days without food every season of the year, seem to be enough to keep my weight quiet stable. Without anything socially going on i have a daily 90 min eating window. And i allow myself some guilty pleasures on Fridays and Saturdays. Like going out and drinking beers with friends

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Post by moneytide1 »

erklik wrote: post #177
moneytide1 wrote: post #108

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It makes sense to fast temporarily in order to "jolt" the body into action (reduced external input activates internal compensation processes) as our genetics have ancient embedded protocols developed to push through resource restrictions. If not for your listed reasons - do it to knock the rust off of safely stored emergency equipment. I've noticed that once you get past the first "hump" of hunger pangs, famish subsi…

> I've noticed that once you get past the first "hump" of hunger pangs, famish subsides into the background, and I'd imagine it is at this point where the metaphorical "adrenaline" dosage is injected by nature to make available the bodies reserve energy to get through inevitable temporary nutrient deficiency back in our hunter-gatherer days. I haven't personally fasted as such in this manner but was always quite fasc…

I've not intentionally fasted over sustained periods - my reference comes from being inconvenienced by hunger in the middle of necessary activity and persisting anyways. I should try to discipline myself for a few days and see what happens to my psyche.

I've wondered if high function brain pharmaceutical intervention (depression pill) succeeds because of a similar effect - the side effects themselves are the "cure" because the body is purposely affected at the base of Maslow's pyramid. This distracts the user from existential angst or threats out of the realm of control of the individual because this is a self inflicted "problem" that can be solved (guaranteed) by patience and temporary suffering.

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Post by mrfox321 »

ganonm wrote: post #274
dstick wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bravo! And because this is HN let me add: I love seeing light hearted responses like this that elicit a smile, on HN. Where the overall tone is normally very serious :)

I disagree. I regularly downvote comments whose purpose is largely for humour. Not because they aren't funny/witty/clever, but because this is Hacker News, not Reddit. Let's keep it that way.

Or maybe allow some diversity in the mood of the conversation? There is always a time and a place for humor and non-serious conversation. I get that you don't want this forum to devolve, but it also devolves if you are dead set on a single mode of operation.

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Post by colinmhayes »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #131
colinmhayes wrote: post #113

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Drip coffee is horrible, so I understand wanting sugar. I moved to black by buying a mocha pot and aeropress. It's a whole different coffee experience, milk and sugar not necessary.

I have every coffee making gimmick from the chemex to the aeropress and I guarantee you would fail a blind test on which one is which, or if the cups of coffee are even different. I mean, what exactly is the mechanical difference of putting hot water through coffee grounds and a filter that differs when you do it in an aeropress vs. a dripper? And you think you're tasting enough of a difference to say one is horrible…

You're doing it wrong if there are grounds in your cup. Yes there's a huge difference between letting the coffee soak for minutes and then applying pressure versus quickly dripping water through the beans.

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Post by chiefgeek »

patrickk wrote: post #195
stjohnswarts wrote: post #119

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800 is far too low for that amount of time unless you weight like 80lbs. 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance.

> 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance. This is only true up to a point. A colleague put me onto a fasting method called “Buchinger’s Fasting”. I fasted for around a week and a half, muscle maintenance was not a concern. After 3 days, your body burns through the glucose reserves and you get brain fog. After that, indeed, your body tried to break down muscle mass for fuel. The tric…

I assume that is from Buchinger Clinic in Germany? I watched a documentary (can’t remember the name) about fasting that claims it is more commonplace in Europe than elsewhere. They also claimed the Soviets studied it for years with favorable results.

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Post by rootusrootus »

amelius wrote: post #275
JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #173

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

> I also realized that I feel a lot better with a full stomach than with an empty one. Typo?

I have a similar experience. I feel better all around when my stomach is full than when it's not. But that's not a feasible way to stay at a healthy weight so I deal.

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Post by boltzmann_brain »

patrickk wrote: post #195
stjohnswarts wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

800 is far too low for that amount of time unless you weight like 80lbs. 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance.

> 1200 calories at least to stop your body from using muscle for sustenance. This is only true up to a point. A colleague put me onto a fasting method called “Buchinger’s Fasting”. I fasted for around a week and a half, muscle maintenance was not a concern. After 3 days, your body burns through the glucose reserves and you get brain fog. After that, indeed, your body tried to break down muscle mass for fuel. The tric…

This aligns exactly with my experience. The body is very reluctant to turn into fat reserves, as they the best source of energy and must be conserved. As you said, exercise helps, and another trick to eat some carbs every three or so days to convince your body to start burning fat.

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Post by cvhashim »

hutzlibu wrote: post #251
lotsofpulp wrote: post #64

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Also, it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full, so if you eat a little bit, and stop for 15 min, you might very well find that you are full. However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell y…

One of the reasons, why it is a good idea to eat slowly.

Along those lines, nutritionist suggest to eat without distractions.

Near impossible these days, I just had toast and coffee while scrolling through HN.

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