Any good commercial games released?
This is cheating, but renpy is based on pygame. So tons of visual novels are technically made in pygame, the most popular is probably Doki Doki Literature Club.
Pygame 2.0
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Re: Pygame 2.0
#22Any uses of it for things that aren't games?
Re: Pygame 2.0
#23My wishlist:
* Integration with numpy/scipy/matplotlib/etc.
* Integration with Python Mode for Processing
* Integration with either the Arduino or the Micro:bit ecosystem
* Integration with Pygame Zero (so there are smooth, documented ways to transition -- low floor/high ceiling, rather than two modes of working)
* Eventually, integration and wrapping of OpenCV
In other words, Pygame would benefit from integrating with the broader ecosystem one might wish to use to teach kids to code. Writing games involves a lot of math, image processing, and similar, and 2020 computers are fast enough kids can do that without writing optimized assembly. It's nice if games can be physically embedded (Arduino/Micro:bit).
Right now, there's a collection of projects, but they don't play well together. The level of contortions one must go through to move a sprite from being a numpy array to an image in whatever library, to an image in another library, is well beyond what most kids (or even teachers) can handle.
Re: Pygame 2.0
#24My wishlist: * Integration with numpy/scipy/matplotlib/etc. * Integration with Python Mode for Processing * Integration with either the Arduino or the Micro:bit ecosystem * Integration with Pygame Zero (so there are smooth, documented ways to transition -- low floor/high ceiling, rather than two modes of working) * Eventually, integration and wrapping of OpenCV In other words, Pygame would benefit from integrating wi…
Are you serious? At least opencv is odd ...
Re: Pygame 2.0
#25Any uses of it for things that aren't games?
Impressive (http://impressive.sourceforge.net) is a PDF slideshow viewer based on Pygame.
Re: Pygame 2.0
#26My wishlist: * Integration with numpy/scipy/matplotlib/etc. * Integration with Python Mode for Processing * Integration with either the Arduino or the Micro:bit ecosystem * Integration with Pygame Zero (so there are smooth, documented ways to transition -- low floor/high ceiling, rather than two modes of working) * Eventually, integration and wrapping of OpenCV In other words, Pygame would benefit from integrating wi…
A pygame volunteer here.
Wish lists are fun. True, integration is important. We should do more. Luckily some of yours already came true!
:)
For image sharing, there's a surfarray, and sndarray modules for integration with numpy. pygame.image.frombuffer/tobuffer to going to and from buffers. PIL(low), opencv, and other python image and audio libraries can be used pretty easily this way. There's articles, books and videos on how to integrate with most other libraries. Since python 3.3 or so there's been a much better buffer interface at the C and python API levels which many python libraries are using for integration. There's currently a gap in typing around this, but there's some progress.
If you don't like the 11MB download for numpy, we have a builtin pixel array module that can do a lot of the same stuff for images. There's also some built in Vector math objects (modeled closely on the GLSL ones).
The pixel array stuff is usually a hit in class settings because doing visual affects is very easy to write. As you say, computers are fast enough. Better (although more advanced) is probably the shadertoy website :)
Mu Editor, has built in support for pygame/pygame zero. It even comes with a pygame+arduino example. There's tutorials about for teaching it with microbits (and other little devices).
CircuitPython comes with some built in game libraries. This is probably better to use than pygame. It's best place to look probably for python on micros if you're into crafting games on very small devices. pygame comes preinstalled with raspberry pi, so that's also an option considering some of them can be found for $5 (or for free if you go hunting around dusty drawers).
We have some Python Mode for Processing users. There's a big community of video artists using pygame, and pygame comes built into some of the most popular video synths in recent years.
Python Mode for Processing does a lot of cool things right, and is definitely better than pygame for what it does. It would be great if some of the integration work done in this direction would continue. It's one of the most compact and readable ways to go. pygame zero follows this style a little bit, but being able to reuse code and concepts from both communities is even better.
Re: Pygame 2.0
#27As coincidences go, just the day before yesterday I looked into pygame and came across this Quora question: https://www.quora.com/Is-Pygame-fast-enough-for-modern-game-... The sentiment seems to be that it's not suitable for more than small toy games -- which in itself would still be interesting. I mean, it's clear that professional AAA studios are not the core target group. But has anyone here on HN additional hands…
I've done a fair amount with Pygame. It's great for learning the fundamentals of 2D graphics and little toy games, it works well for writing simple programs to do things with image data, and I imagine you could use it to pretty easily get an OpenGL window to draw into. I would not recommend using Pygame to develop a serious game project. All of Pygame's provided functions use software rendering, so you won't be able…
Hello. pygame volunteer here.
Here's some awesome libraries and frameworks that work with or are built on top of pygame.
pygame_gui - gui elements for pygame.
pymunk - 2d physics library. Lots of examples, very well maintained.
Thorpy - a GUI library for pygame.
pyscroll - Scrolling maps. Fast scrolling images easy.
pyTMX - Reads Tiled Map Editors TMX maps. Can use a Map editor easily.
spritesheetlib - loading sprite sheets.
animation - Tasks and tweening using pygame groups. No framework needed to smoothly move sprites or execute things over time.
pyknic - collection of useful tools (tweening, animation, context, timing, fonts, spritesystem, skeleton, ...) for games.
pytmxloader - Map loader for tmx files
pygame-text - Greatly simplifies drawing text with the pygame.font module.
Wasabi2d - cutting edge python game framework.
pgzero - game framework built on top of pygame. Intended for education.
moderngl - Modern OpenGL bindings for python. pygame-menu - A menu for pygame, simple, lightweight and easy to use.
Re: Pygame 2.0
#28As coincidences go, just the day before yesterday I looked into pygame and came across this Quora question: https://www.quora.com/Is-Pygame-fast-enough-for-modern-game-... The sentiment seems to be that it's not suitable for more than small toy games -- which in itself would still be interesting. I mean, it's clear that professional AAA studios are not the core target group. But has anyone here on HN additional hands…
I wanted to counter some of the child comments who say that it's a bit of a child engine with some real world results. After all, people are making great games today with Pico-8 or on a Game Boy, surely there must be some great indie Pygame games. Now, these aren't AAA developers, but it seems to have as much capability as something like Love2D does.
Sure enough, there's quite a few = https://itch.io/games/made-with-pygame
(Side note, when I first searched for the 'pygame' tag on Itch, I got nothing. It didn't even suggest it as a tag, wouldn't let me search for it. However Googling "games made with pygame" provided the Itch tag as the first result, not sure why that was)
Re: Pygame 2.0
#29As coincidences go, just the day before yesterday I looked into pygame and came across this Quora question: https://www.quora.com/Is-Pygame-fast-enough-for-modern-game-... The sentiment seems to be that it's not suitable for more than small toy games -- which in itself would still be interesting. I mean, it's clear that professional AAA studios are not the core target group. But has anyone here on HN additional hands…
I can't speak to PyGame2, but PyGame circa 2010 was definitely super slow compared to, say, Java and SDL. For some kinds of games it was fine, and it was good for prototyping and if you were just getting in to game dev.
Re: Pygame 2.0
#30As coincidences go, just the day before yesterday I looked into pygame and came across this Quora question: https://www.quora.com/Is-Pygame-fast-enough-for-modern-game-... The sentiment seems to be that it's not suitable for more than small toy games -- which in itself would still be interesting. I mean, it's clear that professional AAA studios are not the core target group. But has anyone here on HN additional hands…
I wanted to counter some of the child comments who say that it's a bit of a child engine with some real world results. After all, people are making great games today with Pico-8 or on a Game Boy, surely there must be some great indie Pygame games. Now, these aren't AAA developers, but it seems to have as much capability as something like Love2D does. Sure enough, there's quite a few = https://itch.io/games/made-with-…
To go even further, here's a breakdown on engine use on indie games on Itch.
- Unity - 25,954 tags
- GameMaker - 6141 tags
- Godot - 4192 tags
- RPGMaker - 3979 tags
- Unreal Engine - 3915 tags
- Pico-8 - 2446 tags
- LÖVE - 1581 tags
- PyGame - 226 tags