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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by float4 »

Markoff wrote: post #192
Melting_Harps wrote: post #96

I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

Is it really fasting though? That's having big lunch and just skipping dinner. Many people do this often unintentionally without calling it fasting at all. You should move at least to 36-40 hours, although even that I don't find particularly special.

> Is it really fasting though?

"In a physiological context, [...] a person is assumed to be fasting once 8–12 hours have elapsed since the last meal. Metabolic changes of the fasting state begin after absorption of a meal (typically 3–5 hours after eating)."[0]

So yes, it really is fasting.

> 36-40 hours, although even that I don't find particularly special

Don't make such claims without sources. And for what it's worth: most people don't fast in hope of others finding it special anyway.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by trabant00 »

JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #173

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

People who never experimented themselves with nutrition do not understand the limitations of these studies. They only look for one effect for a relative short period of time. So not only they might miss other side effects but also they conclude based on the shock effect major changes have on your body. But once these changes become normal the body adapts and the effects might go completely away.

From my personal experience: very high protein with calorie deficit can allow you to build muscle while losing fat but also causes impotence, anxiety, poop so hard you scrape your insides till you fill the toilet with blood. Are the studies right? Yes. Do you want to follow their advice? Not really.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by iamben »

JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #173

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

This is an excellent comment, and anecdata aside, is very similar to my own experiences. Started a ketogenic diet ~3 years ago - was very close to FODMAP and immediately saw stomach/gut/sweat/sleep/general well being improvements across the board. Been super interesting (since) to see what has an effect on me and after how much.

In particular, I cut alcohol in a big way (mostly casual beer) and was fairly stunned to realise how much I'd lived with "booze blues" every day. It's now very, very obvious the effect alcohol has on my body afterwards (elevated heart rate, booze blues, etc etc). But at the time was like a fog being lifted for the first time in almost 20 years.

We're all different, what works for me might not for you, etc - but personally was hugely enlightening to just reset and play around with what does what.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by monadgonad »

kashif wrote: post #238
JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #173

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

This is really bad advice. Its important to do actual science and not run on anecdotes.

You misunderstand. When it comes to what works for you, an individual, the only thing you can ultimately go on is how you, the individual, feel.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by mobilefriendly »

monadgonad wrote: post #266
kashif wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really bad advice. Its important to do actual science and not run on anecdotes.

You misunderstand. When it comes to what works for you, an individual, the only thing you can ultimately go on is how you, the individual, feel.

The whole problem is that junk food and overeating feel really good.

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Post by st1x7 »

AnonC wrote: post #134
kranner wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use it without an account.

Edit: Tried it again on iOS and there’s no way to proceed after the initial questions without creating an account. Deleted it again.

You can log in with Apple ID, never share your email and remove the app from your account whenever you please. If that's too intrusive for you, I'm surprised that you've managed to sign up to HN so you can write a comment.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by st1x7 »

d--b wrote: post #122

All the muslim world does 4-week intermittent fasting every year. That'd make it easy to test the asumption of the paper on a large scale population

A very important difference is that you can't drink water during a Ramadan fast. Regardless of what you're doing with your food, deliberately dehydrating yourself is pretty much never justified.
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