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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by azemetre »

mrapogee wrote: post #25
mikenew wrote: post #9

> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some…

True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".

Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way.

The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by soulofmischief »

zerop wrote: post #36

I have been fasting weekly once from morning to evening. I eat only dinner on Tuesday. I have been doing it since past 6 years.. it makes a difference. It improved digestion and overall I feel good at end of fasting day. Good from cnn on fasting advantages https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/01/health/fasting-longevity-food...

Any other effects you think could also be contributing? A change in exercise, diet, etc?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by aeternum »

rattray wrote: post #35
haram_masala wrote: post #19

No control group, and n=14. This study says nothing.

"Nothing" is a bit strong – it probably says that further study is warranted. It certainly doesn't say that intermittent fasting will cure/prevent cancer.

It could say nothing since we don't know about potential negative trials.

How many research groups tried this with a similar N=14 size group but got statistically insignificant results and thus were not able to publish results?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by mrfusion »

voisin wrote: post #17
ravenstine wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My suspicion is that you would see similar improvement with things like waist circumference, BMI, blood pressure, at least initially, but that the difference with intermittent fasting is that it introduces enough of a "fasted state" that the body is able to perform repair and autophagy of senescent cells that would occur much less in a constantly fed state. (something about telomerase, but I probably shouldn't mentio…

From what I understand, autophagy doesn’t start until 18 hours and doesn’t peak until 72 hours.

I’ve been looking for a good source but haven’t found one. Has it not been studied in humans yet?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by throwaway9980 »

azemetre wrote: post #41
mrapogee wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".

Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.

I know you meant one meal a day, but I read this as one mead a day and it was so really fun confusion.

EDIT: parent edited for the typo, but it originally read one mead a day... one very large mead. But where do you get your protein? Is there protein mead? How does this all mead diet work.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

erklik wrote: post #40
kranner wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to account for increased rates of smoking in both Muslim-majority countries and Muslim populations in non-Muslim-majority countries. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360407/ > A fifth of the world's population is Muslim, and most Muslims live in areas where the prevalence of smoking is high and often increasing. But even among the many Muslims living in Europe, smoking prevalence (partic…

That's interesting. I believe smoking is discouraged in Islam, so I wonder why the uptake is higher. Guessing it's a general education issue?

Tobacco companies actively and aggressively advertise and market their products in LEDC countries:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1363897/

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Post by ab8 »

erklik wrote: post #39
ronyeh wrote: post #32

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I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

> until I'm full and I've learnt that it's very hard to know when you're satisfied in terms of hunger, and full in terms of desire. The level of food required to satiate my hunger seems to be quite different from when I am "full".

The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by sharadov »

erklik wrote: post #40
kranner wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to account for increased rates of smoking in both Muslim-majority countries and Muslim populations in non-Muslim-majority countries. From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360407/ > A fifth of the world's population is Muslim, and most Muslims live in areas where the prevalence of smoking is high and often increasing. But even among the many Muslims living in Europe, smoking prevalence (partic…

That's interesting. I believe smoking is discouraged in Islam, so I wonder why the uptake is higher. Guessing it's a general education issue?

Smoking not so much, alcohol is considered "haram", you see smoking to be a lot more prevalent.
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