Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

tptacek wrote: post #4

kylebenzle wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. Do practicing Muslims have lower cancer rates?

They're only fasting for a month out of the year.

That’s literally the fasting term in the study.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by mathattack » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 3:12 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #4

kylebenzle wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. Do practicing Muslims have lower cancer rates?

They're only fasting for a month out of the year.

The duration in the article is 4 months.

The real issue is small sample size. (14 people)

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by MattGaiser » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 3:12 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #4

kylebenzle wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. Do practicing Muslims have lower cancer rates?

They're only fasting for a month out of the year.

So do they have fewer early stages cancers diagnosed in the months after?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by Nemant » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 3:13 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #4

kylebenzle wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. Do practicing Muslims have lower cancer rates?

They're only fasting for a month out of the year.

A lot of practicing Muslims also fast Mondays and Thursdays and the “3 white days” of the month[0]

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_in_Islam see “Days of voluntary fasting”

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by mikenew » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

> Subjects had a significant reduction in body mass index, waist circumference, and improvement in blood pressure

Would really like to see this compared to another group with a similar level of calorie restriction but without the intermittent fasting. The question with intermittent fasting is really just "is it better than plain old calorie restriction". Seems like there's some evidence that points to "yes" and some evidence that points to "not really".

EDIT: To be clear, by "is it better" I meant aside from just adherence. I've used IF quite a bit myself and I find it much easier than eating frequent, small meals throughout the day if I want to be hypocaloric. There are a lot of claims around autophagy, a more favorable metabolic adaptation, better body composition, and in this case actual cancer treatment. That is what I would like to see evidence for.

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Post by kranner » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

kylebenzle wrote: post #3

Nemant wrote: post #2

Welcome to Ramadan!

Good point. Do practicing Muslims have lower cancer rates?

You'll have to account for increased rates of smoking in both Muslim-majority countries and Muslim populations in non-Muslim-majority countries.

From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360407/

> A fifth of the world's population is Muslim, and most Muslims live in areas where the prevalence of smoking is high and often increasing. But even among the many Muslims living in Europe, smoking prevalence (particularly among men) remains high. For example, in England in 2004 the overall prevalence of smoking was 40% in Bangladeshi men and 29% in Pakistani men compared with 24% among the male general population.