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Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by iba99 »

zed88 wrote: post #73

It's an interesting pivot for you guys from building some sort of recruitment AI (I remember seeing it somewhere) to this. Would you mind elaborating this shift? Anyways, Good luck with the launch!Will give this a go.

In our experience building any form of meritocracy in recruiting, was excruciatingly difficult due to

1) inherent subconscious bias on the part of the recruiting team 2) pedigree bias - employers only wanting to view candidates that were from certain ivy league institutions

We tried long and hard, for a good 18 months, and it became an arduous battle fraught with the possibility of having to make unethical decisions in the structure of our algorithms. Our whole thesis was to create a system that recommended candidates based on their github repos. Pretty sure someone will solve this problem, but in our experience, it felt like a losing battle since recruiters wanted access to certain types of candidates and were continuing to reject candidates that were surfaced, with non-traditional backgrounds.

This was 2015, I think someone will solve this problem with time. The experience did teach us a thing or two about git commits, PRs and the overall experience of productivity through git based systems.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by iba99 »

dvt wrote: post #63

This is a bit of a meta-discussion (apologies to the people at Tara, they did a fantastic job!), but is the market really large enough for the insane amount of productivity tools that have been released over the past few years? From Airtable, to Monday, to Hugo, to Tara, to Asana, etc., etc. It feels like there's a lot of stagnation here, also. If I was building a product management tool, I would certainly not make i…

At it's core, we find it to be an Apple OS vs Windows OS problem. You can either build highly complex project management systems, with 50 different types of subsets, customizations and setup instructions (ie Windows?) or try to design software that just works through simplicity in design and set defaults based on your workflow (ie Apple!).

It's an interesting conundrum and one that we think B2B software rarely gets right. Why can't B2B software inspire delight in the user and just work?

We've decided to have a laser focus on teams that ship early and often, and help with their workflows, by innovating through design. That being said, we still have a long way to go.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by robertlagrant »

pj_mukh wrote: post #40
lekevicius wrote: post #38

"Free" is the worst pricing of all. Open-source is great. One time purchase price is great for products that don't require maintenance. Subscription pricing is perfectly valid for online services that are not open-source. Free? Free is the worst. I don't get any trust that the service will stay around, it can completely change along the way to "paid", and I don't get to keep anything in that case.

FWIW, they explain exactly how they'll make money in the website (under Pricing) and in this thread.

> FWIW, they explain exactly how they'll make money in the website (under Pricing) and in this thread.

No, they explain how they currently hope to make money. That's a long way from being the same thing.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by ReD_CoDE »

lekevicius wrote: post #38

"Free" is the worst pricing of all. Open-source is great. One time purchase price is great for products that don't require maintenance. Subscription pricing is perfectly valid for online services that are not open-source. Free? Free is the worst. I don't get any trust that the service will stay around, it can completely change along the way to "paid", and I don't get to keep anything in that case.

Where's their source code? I don't see anything open-source

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by robertlagrant »

hnlmorg wrote: post #35
dindresto wrote: post #15

From the privacy policy: https://tara.ai/privacy/ "THIS IS A WEBSITE PRIVACY DRAFTED UNDER U.S. LAW. THIS POLICY IS NOT INTENDED TO SATISFY ANY 'FAIR PROCESSING NOTICE' OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE UNDER GDPR OR OTHER APPLICABLE NON-US LAW." As a European, it's very unfortunate that I'm not legally able to try your product.

Are you routinely putting GDPR sensitive information into your ticket tracking system? I'd suggestion most people shouldn't irrespective of GDPR. And if you don't then those terms aren't an issue.

People's names could be in their logins, which means you have a portion of their employment record.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by 0df8dkdf »

viach wrote: post #31

> Our free forever plan has unlimited tasks, sprints and workspaces, with no user limits. If so, what obstacles prevent from open sourcing it? At least the the part of functionality which is declared to be free forever?

The fact that it is .ai means that they are doing data collection. And you are the product.

I already don't trust jira too much. Unless it is self-hosted and you want to be a test data collection set for them. Then it is not worth it.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by nishparadox »

Hey, our startup recently moved to tara because we couldn't afford jira. Thanks for this tool. We've been using it for a month or two now and the task management seems to be doing fine. Not that we are that much managed, but still tara seems to be a good (and of course, free) alternative to get the things done.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by danudey »

iba99 wrote: post #8
dnsmichi wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for sharing. I'm curious about the GitLab integration, is there a page on your website describing it in more detail?

Just made this live: https://help.tara.ai/hc/en-us/articles/360051704951-Gitlab-I... Basically, RN its a webhook. Once active, you can view merge requests related to a task, when synced. Over time, we should be releasing a full fledged Gitlab bi-directional sync and app (similar to our Github app here: https://github.com/marketplace/tara-ai ) Our Github app also allows you to view stale PRs that are blocking the spri…

Is there a reason for announcing it now, when it's incomplete and less useful, rather than once it's done (or more feature complete, at least)?

I ask because this seems like the sort of thing I would look at, then shrug off because it's not all there, as I don't want to put time and energy into learning a product that will have the features I want "some day", so I'd be likely to skip out on it for now and then forget about it basically forever.

Personally, I'd much rather be shown something that feels "done" and try to integrate it then than work with someone's first pass on the implementation, and I'm concerned that others would feel the same way and you would miss out on users.

Re: Show HN: Tara – A free Jira alternative, now with Gitlab

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Post by [deleted] »

ReD_CoDE wrote: post #85
lekevicius wrote: post #38

"Free" is the worst pricing of all. Open-source is great. One time purchase price is great for products that don't require maintenance. Subscription pricing is perfectly valid for online services that are not open-source. Free? Free is the worst. I don't get any trust that the service will stay around, it can completely change along the way to "paid", and I don't get to keep anything in that case.

Where's their source code? I don't see anything open-source

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