Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8 • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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Post by mynameisvlad » Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 10:28 PM UTC

toast0 wrote: post #99

mynameisvlad wrote: post #91

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I mean, neither will Windows 7 and 8.

If the policy is followed, it sounds like driver signing will stop working as it did before. Presumably drivers signed before a certain date will work, but drivers signed after that won't. Or something.

Sure, but that doesn't "prevent you from using it and installing software and drivers". You can still install previously signed drivers. You can even turn on unsigned driver installation and install unsigned drivers.

Nothing is really changing on the user's side. They might not get new drivers going forward if the company doesn't want to or can't pass HKL, but Windows 7 is out of support at this point. Windows 8 is still supported, to be fair, but I don't know of many people who actually run it; it's either 7 or 10.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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Post by pulse7 » Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 10:10 AM UTC

qayxc wrote: post #114

pulse7 wrote: post #101

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This may be true in US, but in Germany it is not... and this was decided by Germany's supreme court...

Sources, please. reality says otherwise: https://www.dr-bahr.com/news/verkauf-eines-nicht-aktivierten... Why is it that people still don't understand the difference between selling software licenses and using said licenses? The decision was explicitly about non-activated licences and didn't include the right to continue using a license of a sold product. EuGH C128/11 explicitly states that you have to delete/invalida…

OK, but in this case you can still "resell your copy of Windows binary code" - which you didn't use... And this is not permitted in the USA, while it is permitted in Germany...

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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Post by Zancarius » Tue, Nov 03, 2020, 4:44 AM UTC

Sunspark wrote: post #100

Zancarius wrote: post #63

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Last I checked (about a year ago) you could still run the upgrade tool, and it'd go through the licensing registration process just fine. I wouldn't do that if it weren't a personal machine, however, because the "official" upgrade process ended a long time ago. Even using it for a home office might put you into questionable legal territory, but it's still possible. I do think your last statement is more accurate, tho…

You don't even need to use the upgrade tool. Windows 10 clean installs from the iso will let you manually input the Windows 7 key you already possess and the activation server will accept it. The 7 key is whitelisted only for 10. It will not work for 8.

Good point.

I did a clean install and entered the Win7 key. Hadn't actually thought much beyond that.

Re: Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8

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Post by justinclift » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #118

justinclift wrote: post #113

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Even some basic research via any search engine will answer that question. ;)

Why would I need to do any research? If the "forced" claim were true, it would be literally impossible for me to be doing what I'm doing right now. Microsoft might have tried to deceive or even coerce users of its older operating systems in order to get them to accept an upgrade. However, the upgrade was not forced, because you could (and some people did) avoid moving to the new version. It does not usefully advance…

> However, the upgrade was not forced ...

There are many documented cases of it happening against the users wishes.

That you're unwilling to even do a basic search online about this just means, you've already made up your mind. Even though the facts are completely the opposite to what you've decided to believe.