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From a retailer's point-of-view I totally get the rational and value behind collecting these metrics... from a privacy point-of-view it is a bit disconcerting.
[i] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cadillac-fairview-mal...
I could not be happier that wearing a mask is more or less societally acceptable now.
More importantly though it sets a precedent for the future. We now know how easy it is for an airborne virus to decimate us, so even when this virus is over it'll be acceptable for people with immune issues to keep wearing masks "just in case" (similar to Japan/etc, although I know some of that is about stopping other people from getting sick).
>The company also argued shoppers were made aware of the activity through decals it had placed on shopping mall entry doors that referred to Cadillac Fairview's privacy policy. Do what now? Physical spaces have privacy policies? We're really sleepwalking into a dystopia. If you don't like the privacy policy of your shopping mall, you're free to shop... online, where they get even more behavioral data on you. Yikes.
In Canada, do you even really have a right to privacy when in public spaces like a shopping mall? Is there even a legal expectation that there aren't cameras doing this kind of thing all the time? In most places in the US I know there isn't a right to privacy within a public space. If I as a shop owner put up security cameras in this same fashion in most of the US this wouldn't be against the law. There's no law prev…
Yes, you do, because while a shopping mall might be considered a "public space," it is private property owned by a private organization. In Canada the PIPEDA [1] covers this federally, though the law is written such that it is a backstop, and provinces are free to enact their own "substantially similar" (or stricter) laws if they choose. For example, in Alberta the PIPA [2] covers these issues.
And as the article states, both federal and provincial privacy commissioners found CF in violation of those laws.
[1] https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/privacy-laws-in-can...
[2] https://www.alberta.ca/personal-information-protection-act-o...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are the kinds who people who "shop" and attend "malls" the sorts of people we should be protecting?
What the fuck? Your position is that there's something virtuous about exchanging currency for goods as long as you can do it from home, but leaving your house to do it in person is substantively different at all, let alone worthy of disdain? Are you so hopelessly tribal that it doesn't even take a political ideology difference to dehumanize people on a different side? It just naturally hits you that someone with diff…
edit: came to the party late and see that someone else also posted about peopleofwalmart
I could not be happier that wearing a mask is more or less societally acceptable now.
I could not be happier that wearing a mask is more or less societally acceptable now.
I was curious if the value of the facial recognition startups is at risk with masks becoming more prevalent. Wouldn't be surprised if they are lobbying against mask mandates and mask enforcement as their entire business model must be at risk.
>The company also argued shoppers were made aware of the activity through decals it had placed on shopping mall entry doors that referred to Cadillac Fairview's privacy policy. Do what now? Physical spaces have privacy policies? We're really sleepwalking into a dystopia. If you don't like the privacy policy of your shopping mall, you're free to shop... online, where they get even more behavioral data on you. Yikes.
When I was in college Fortinet pitched a capstone project for an automated doorman that tracked passersby, delivery people, residents, etc using cameras posted at doors. We asked why they couldn't use other biometrics which were much more established at the time (eg fingerprint scanners at the doorway), they said because other biometrics required consent. They wanted to track people without their knowing or agreement…
That's a lot different than companies tracking me via facial recognition, storing the data in databases that never get deleted, and combining it with behavioral data. It's going to lead to all kind of abuse. We'll end up with many variants of redlining, but digital.
What happens when that type of data is collected for today's youth and 20 years from now employers start using it to screen job applicants? What if the machine learning algorithms can't distinguish between correlation and causality? Does the "profile" of a successful person become someone from a rich neighborhood as a result of naive correlation?
I'm sure it'll be amazing for wealthy people and terrible for poor people. If I'm rich and walk into a mall, I get treated like a VIP. If I'm poor, maybe the doors don't even open.
I think the courts have ruled that it is perfectly legal to record somebody outside of their home as that is considered public spaces. Many cities are now moving to embed cameras in street lights to deter and record crimes. I think that it is safe to assume that if you are outside, you are being recorded, either by a check point camera , a store’s security camera , streetlight camera or even your neighbor’s ring devi…
I believe shopping malls are private spaces open to the public. The point is that I would not be shocked to see that there are different rules regarding public spaces vs private spaces open to the public.
> Cadillac Fairview said the images taken by camera were briefly analyzed then deleted — but investigators found that the sensitive biometric information generated from the images was being stored in a centralized database by a third party. The images are not being persisted, just the metadata about the individual. Who is being harmed by this? If a person with a clipboard collecting this information without telling a…