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Spy agency ducks questions about 'back doors' in tech products

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There is no whistle to blow. It is fairly well known that all international calls into or out of each country are monitored by bots using speech recognition by the related agency for each repsective country. This has been the case for a very long time. Before bots, there were listening stations with thousands of people monitoring calls. There would be nothing for Snowden to leak in that regard. The only place this ha…

What you claim is "fairly well known" is directly disputed by Snowden's leaks, which say they cannot. They can only tap calls where both endpoints are outside the US and are people who they have reason to believe are not US citizens. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-jan-16-na-wiret...

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People now view going on the Internet as akin to going outside. Yes, other people can see you, and yes, you have limited expectations of privacy. No, it's not problematic that you have police keeping an eye on things. If you have a problem with that, and you never go outside without your "disguise" aka VPN, you are operating outside of social norms (and it's probably not helping anyway). This is not a valid judgement…

I hear this "the internet is like outside, don't expect privacy" argument a lot from americans, who i think are taught some 18th century definition of privacy by their media, as in "in your private rooms" and not a 21st century definition as in "about your private data". If you go to the city there are no agents of third party marketing agencies keeping notes of your movement and what items you look at in the stores…

Huh, your imaginary city reminisces one in The Murderer by Ray Bradbury.

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They do, Snowden and others have leaked it. https://www.cnet.com/news/nsa-spying-flap-extends-to-content...

None of Snowden's documents say so. If they did, that would have been the biggest story in his leaks. Your own article says that they cannot.

He released the details of xkeyscore, which details the system involved with tapping into anyone's personal communication. It doesn't explicitly mention wiretapping, but it seems likely that connecting to a server containing those recordings would also show up in a search.

And we know that they have such servers from the events surrounding Room 641A. Snowden also released documents from that incident, such as the NSA attempt to stop publication.

And in my article, the NSA claims they can not legally search such data without a warrant. It doesn't say they are unable to access the data illegally though

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They totally still call you paranoid. Snowden unfortunately meant nothing to the general technology consumer mass. They're more than happy to defend tooth and nail their jails. See Discord or Zoom as prime current examples. It is ridiculous that he had to go through this just for people to shake their shoulders and keep on, except for the few that already were inclined to care.

It is a relatively common belief among non-technical people in my friend group that Facebook listens to everything you say within earshot of your phone and later displays ads to you based on what it hears. That belief still isn't enough to get those people to stop using Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. It isn't that people don't think they are being spied on. It is that people don't really care that they are being…

About a year ago i wanted to get a used car. Did a few searches, including facebook marketplace. did the purchase not long after that. a little over a year later and i'm still getting ads from facebook

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> - Your Intel system runs a special version of Minix on its Management Engine. A version of Minix customized for Intel by its original developer Not on all systems. It's neutralized and disabled on my Librem 15: https://puri.sm/learn/intel-me/ .

Please stop posting this disinformation.

How is this disinformation? The Intel ME is replaced with zeroes, except a few percent: https://puri.sm/posts/neutralizing-intel-management-engine-o..., and it’s hardly functional.

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We have something called the third party doctrine, which stems from Supreme Court cases in the 1960s and 70s. Basically you have “no reasonable expectation of privacy” with respect to any information that you provide to a third party who is not an attorney providing counsel or a doctor. Your bank records for example, do not require a warrant to access under this principle. All of this put in place by the courts. Stra…

Wonder if there is a business model for attorney privileged data storage.

There was an article on HN recently about how Google does something like that, internally. It claimed employees CC in house lawyers to tag attorney client priviledge on emails they wouldn't want, e.g. antitrust investigators, to obtain too easily. Even if it just delays discovery or adds friction, mission accomplished.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24769847

Re: Spy agency ducks questions about 'back doors' in tech products

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"The tactics drew widespread attention starting in 2013, when Snowden leaked documents referencing these practices." So this is what Snowden has done: he "drew widespread attention to these tactics". Before Snowden they would call you "paranoid" if you would allow yourself to mention it. Today they can not call you paranoid anymore. And yes, it has hurt US industry reputation. Many don't trust Intel processors and Ci…

They totally still call you paranoid. Snowden unfortunately meant nothing to the general technology consumer mass. They're more than happy to defend tooth and nail their jails. See Discord or Zoom as prime current examples. It is ridiculous that he had to go through this just for people to shake their shoulders and keep on, except for the few that already were inclined to care.

>They totally still call you paranoid

Id' say it's weirder still. A lot of people are well aware, and some even spout the wildest speculations about data usage, but if you actually go beyond shallow comments and suggest action (preemptive, legislative, etc) you are often met with a general "well, you care too much" attitude.

I get it, there's a lot of effort to be put in just to understand these matters, let alone remedy them.

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> Disconnect from the internet and nobody is getting in, including the NSA. Wait until they put 5g chips in every single product to make them "smart". Few people talk about that but I believe it's the main use case for 5g. Everything will be connected and you'll have no way to opt out > 4G can support about 4,000 devices per square kilometre, whereas 5G will support around one million

Who pays for the connection? I assume for the radio to stay on, it's either subsidized by the parent company (Amazon pays for Alexa's 5G) or I'm paying for a subscription (Xbox subscription pays for 5G on some future mobile XBox) Maybe you could get the cost down to $1 / month. If you invest $400 in the market it should pay out about that much, so you could make it a one-time payment of $400 for a 5G chip. Consumer n…

I have no answer but the amount of data that could be collected and the possibility to transmit ads to anything with a speaker or screen even if they're not connected to your wifi would be attractive to many companies.

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There's only about 5,000 "real" people on the planet. The rest are unconscious echoes. Thus the weird pressure and "Truman show" feeling those people face.

None of us are "real". We are all living in a simulation.

This seems more probable. My viewers would have tuned out long ago.
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