https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/us/hospitals-cyberattacks...
FBI, DHS, HHS Warn of Imminent Ransomware Threat Against U.S. Hospitals
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
True. The United States is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world (School of the Americas, Bay of Pigs, Iranian-Contra, Operation AJAX, COINTELPRO, Operation Mockingbird, United Fruit...)
got anything from the past 50 years?
Well, a lot of the turmoil in the Middle East is at least partially (I'd argue mostly) to blame because of the US.
Al Qaeda was trained by the CIA. I think it's relatively accepted that there were no WMDs in Iraq, so that entire invasion/war could be classified as terrorism. There are countless drone strikes with civilian casualties around the world. Whether or not you agree with why we did it, the CIA is credited with Stuxnet (it's terrorism even if you think this is one of the "good" ones).
There are certainly more, but let's not pretend like the US isn't intimately involved in directly inserting itself into international affairs illegitimately.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
https://www.wired.com/2014/11/countdown-to-zero-day-stuxnet/
Re: FBI, DHS, HHS Warn of Imminent Ransomware Threat Against U.S. Hospitals
#73Seriously HR admins, if you care anything about your reputation, you should cease re-posting this kind of neocon disinformation.
You are on a site where there are thousands of people who have personally encountered ransomware. Are we all neocons to you?
If you run your infrastructure on a “computer” directly connected to the Internet such that it puts hospitals and power grids in danger, then maybe you're in the wrong profession.
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#74Interesting that DHS's public twitter has no word of this, and instead is a full-time campaign ad for the border fence. It's also ironic that for all the pervasive government surveillance of the internet, this stuff just flies right under the radar. I thought the whole point of this surveillance was for our protection?
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#75If this attack results in actual loss of life, I firmly believe the US should ensure that there are real-world physical consequences for these criminals. They cannot be described as anything less than the worst humanity has to offer. A failure to respond with meaningful and severe consequences for those responsible (assuming this is attack can be confidently attributed to a particular threat actor) opens the floodgates. Time to find out how seriously the US takes its own cyber doctrine.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-cybersecurity...
Re: FBI, DHS, HHS Warn of Imminent Ransomware Threat Against U.S. Hospitals
#76Bad health IT is a public health issue. Perhaps it’s time for hospitals to regularly report their OS versions and patch levels to our local health departments.
Is this the hospitals fault, or as software engineers and tech entrepreneurs, our fault?
If there is one thing I’ve learned from HN commenters, it’s that software engineers are never, ever individually responsible for the ethical or moral consequences of the software they write. It’s one of the most consistently and quickly downvoted topics here. It’s always the company’s fault.
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#77If this attack results in actual loss of life, I firmly believe the US should ensure that there are real-world physical consequences for these criminals. They cannot be described as anything less than the worst humanity has to offer. A failure to respond with meaningful and severe consequences for those responsible (assuming this is attack can be confidently attributed to a particular threat actor) opens the floodgat…
If US citizens die due to this, I am 100% down with bringing the full might of our military down on the state/group that did this. No mercy.
Re: FBI, DHS, HHS Warn of Imminent Ransomware Threat Against U.S. Hospitals
#78If this attack results in actual loss of life, I firmly believe the US should ensure that there are real-world physical consequences for these criminals. They cannot be described as anything less than the worst humanity has to offer. A failure to respond with meaningful and severe consequences for those responsible (assuming this is attack can be confidently attributed to a particular threat actor) opens the floodgat…
What about management? What about the sysadmins/developers that left a security hole somewhere? Are they held responsible in some way?
It's unacceptable that this keeps happening. If you own a safe and it gets broken into every week, do you blame the safe cracker or who built the safe?
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#79If this attack results in actual loss of life, I firmly believe the US should ensure that there are real-world physical consequences for these criminals. They cannot be described as anything less than the worst humanity has to offer. A failure to respond with meaningful and severe consequences for those responsible (assuming this is attack can be confidently attributed to a particular threat actor) opens the floodgat…
Floodgates...
TGD
Re: FBI, DHS, HHS Warn of Imminent Ransomware Threat Against U.S. Hospitals
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
These are not mutually exclusive.
True. The United States is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world (School of the Americas, Bay of Pigs, Iranian-Contra, Operation AJAX, COINTELPRO, Operation Mockingbird, United Fruit...)
Takes a goofy definition of terrorism to get Bay of Pigs to fit.
A military attempt to overthrow a violent leader of another country doesn’t really land in the same category of shutting down hospitals and killing sick people with no political power.