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Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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This reminds me slightly of Tim Ferris' "The 4 Hour Body". Has anyone had any real experience with his suggested diets? I find eating consistent and similar meals is cheaper and healthier.

I have been on the 4HB diet and the PAGG stack from the book for about 2 months. Lost 25 lb then plateaued somewhat and I am working towards finding a solution. This (OP) original diet doesn't sound too far off from the 4HB/slow carb diet with the exception of lean grass fed meats ($$) and the rice.

Make sure you're cycling PAGG (1 day off/week and 1 week off/2months)

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Random tangential thought: There are many areas in the world where you can eat a lot more than this for $3 a day. I lived on $2/day in India for a year (was working in microfinance and wanted to live like my borrowers). I got full vegetarian meals made for me in a major city (Ahmedabad) at that price. Something to consider.

This metric isn't really useful unless you can account for the different buying power of the dollar in a country like India vs. US.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

#153
Wow, the amount of protein in this diet is really low. And all those carbs may not be for everyone. This diet may be cheap, but not healthy.

If you are the type of person who puts on weight easily (like me), than I would suggest doing 50% to 60%+ of your calories from protein and 20% or less from carbs. The easiest source of protein are white eggs (in a carton), chicken (pre-cooked), beans (get low sodium), and protein shakes (whey during the day and casein at night). All these foods can be prepared with just the microwave.

Eating carbs is the easiest way to gain extra pounds. Removing carbs also removes any food coma you may experience after eating a meal, allowing you to be more productive.

I lost like 30 lbs without trying that hard by eliminating carbs and focusing on protein. The degree to which I'm in shape one day is correlated to how much carbs I have avoided in the previous few days.

And of course, take vitamin supplements. Throwing in some veggies for the fiber, or take fiber supplements.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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> we found a few "living on a dollar a day" blogs, but every single one bought in bulk and then calculated the cost of each scoop they took out of the bin. What's wrong with that? It's by far the cheapest way to cook. Bulk makes buying organic cheap too, as long as you don't shop at supermarkets. They have a habit of avoiding organic brands that are price-competitive with existing products.

You have to store those products somewhere. 25lb - 50lb bags or buckets of flour, rice, beans and/or other dry goods are not small. Buying produce in bulk may save you money, but you must use the produce before it goes bad which can start to happen within a few days or a week.

My biggest issue is with wastage. My budget is certainly not a few dollars/day - we eat out a lot and our schedule changes (last minute invites, etc) so it's hard to buy fresh things in advance without losing a fair bit along the way.

My idea is for a guide and cookbook that focuses on:

  - ingredients that can be stored for a long time (tins of coconut milk, rice, etc)
  - things that can be cooked and then frozen/saved for long periods
  - shortcuts that aren't awful (frozen vegetables aren't always the devil)
  - things you can make with fading vegetables (soups, stock, etc)
Have always wondered if it would be worth doing. Not a glamorous cookbook concept (like most that sell here as gifts), but might appeal to some?

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

#155

He follows (old) USDA dietary recommendations, which stipulate no saturated fat, and 60% carbs. That is really, really bad. The ultimate reference is "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes - it is meticulously researched and referenced, and is likely 40 years more up-to-date than your nutrition or medical professional.

Good Calories, Bad Calories is often based on incomplete science. It certainly does not make sense when viewed through the lens of some of the largest human dietary studies ever performed (such as the China Study; which Taubes "debunked" in his own unique fashion, but he can't alter the fact that it's among the best, longest, widest, and broadest studies of human diet available; to ignore it is to ignore good science and put your faith in hunches, which Taubes has a lot of).

The Japanese diet is one of several high carb diets that leads to excellent health and longevity. Many of the most successful regional diets are based heavily on rice, legumes, and vegetables, and are very carb-heavy. Ignoring those historically successful diets requires either an extremely myopic view of diet, or someone who has a controversial new book to sell.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not suggesting that following Taubes advice would necessarily be a bad thing. He recommends whole foods, and cutting out sugar and simple carbs and processed foods, which are excellent dietary choices to make. Most Americans would get healthier by eating as Taubes recommends. But, to claim that a low-fat, high-carb, diet is unhealthy, when there are mountains of evidence to the contrary in the form of several Asian and Mediterranean diets, is misleading, at best. The problem with the American diet is not in any one macro-nutrient...fat or carb. It is that we, as a people, eat garbage at every meal. Processed, sugared, stripped of everything good and injected with everything bad. 80% of the food at a supermarket is probably something humans shouldn't be eating, even in moderation, but most of us eat it daily and as the primary source of calories.

Taubes is another fad diet promoter. His fad diet is better than most, and has some decent science behind it. But, it's not the ultimate reference, and it's not on my list of books to recommend to people who just want some ideas about how to eat better (I recommend In Defense of Food for that; it's anti-fad, free of hyperbole and outlandish claims and is based on tradition and science).

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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post #74

Random tangential thought: There are many areas in the world where you can eat a lot more than this for $3 a day. I lived on $2/day in India for a year (was working in microfinance and wanted to live like my borrowers). I got full vegetarian meals made for me in a major city (Ahmedabad) at that price. Something to consider.

This metric isn't really useful unless you can account for the different buying power of the dollar in a country like India vs. US.

It looks like the average software developer makes about 7400 USD a year in India [1]. Assuming a reasonable average is 60k in USA, that's about an 8x salary difference, meaning spending $2/day on food in India is something like $16/day in USA.

1: http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/Country=India/Salary, 328,379 rupees is approx = 7400 USD

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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Where where you living at the time? I am from Sydney, and I have been told by friends from other states that the food prices here are much higher than anywhere else: even Melbourne (for non-aussies: a similarly sized city - 4 mil inhabitants vs 4.5 mil in Sydney).

I don't know about other states, but food is crazily expensive here (Sydney) compared to the UK. For some reason, eating out or takeaways is relatively cheap though.

FX rates aside (I can't ever remember the £ being so weak) my friend just got back and said that a 4 pack of yoghurts was as expensive as a steak!.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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I don't know about other states, but food is crazily expensive here (Sydney) compared to the UK. For some reason, eating out or takeaways is relatively cheap though.

Food and Agriculture in Australia and New Zealand isn't as heavily subsidised as it is in Europe and America. That's one possible reason.

It does interest me as to why this is. I think it's this and maybe the geography/population making the mega supermarkets less viable.

I sometimes play with the idea of a food co-op to bring prices down, but haven't got far.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

#159

My wife and I lived off $2.80AUD a day while she was finishing her last year of Uni. It was really rough and Lucy end up developing iron deficiencies.

Where where you living at the time? I am from Sydney, and I have been told by friends from other states that the food prices here are much higher than anywhere else: even Melbourne (for non-aussies: a similarly sized city - 4 mil inhabitants vs 4.5 mil in Sydney).

Living in Ryde, Sydney.

Veg like carrots are a good way to get full for not much. We found it was also helpful to have a weekend budget where you could treat yourself. Keeps you sane.

Re: Eating Healthily for $3 a Day

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post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about other states, but food is crazily expensive here (Sydney) compared to the UK. For some reason, eating out or takeaways is relatively cheap though.

Food and Agriculture in Australia and New Zealand isn't as heavily subsidised as it is in Europe and America. That's one possible reason.

I've noticed our grocery bill (now we are both working) has gone from $70p/w to $130p/w in the last year.
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