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Is there anywhere I can credibly pay any reasonable amount of money to offset my CO2 emissions? I would be willing to pay a monthly salary for this, if the effect can be demonstrated to be sustainable and permanent.

I've been wondering how the various companies that have CO2 offset programs do it; whether it's credible or not.

Re: Stripe Climate

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If anyone from Stripe is reading - is it possible yet for me to simply donate money to the portfolio you’ve assembled without running a business? We purchase monthly offsets now and I’d love to switch to funding direct carbon capture (and will happily spend more).

Honest question - is direct carbon capture better, than offsets or putting that money into helping folks switch to sustainable energy sources?

Re: Stripe Climate

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post #108

I'm surprised to not see these investments directed towards the voluntary carbon market, in which projects such as those REDD+ certified achieve more than 10X higher efficiency, with significant co-benefits in biodiversity and support to the local communities (here's an example I give often: https://standfortrees.org/ ). It looks like the projects were chosen through the biases of Silicon Valley, chosen to be futuris…

There is a distinction between carbon credits and negative emissions. I wouldn't say these projects are bias towards silicon valley style there is simply a growing acceptance that nature based solutions - whole undeniably important and essential - are simply not enough. They are cheap but slow. Trees can be wiped out with wild-fires releasing CO2 back into the atmosphere. Negative emissions technologies such as bio-o…

Any studies you can cite to support your beliefs you're sharing here?

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post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, simply crush billions of tons of olivine and move it to a beach. Weathering olivine doesn't scale, because you need so much. It involves hitherto unprecendented amounts of quarrying and then transport. The quarrying would destroy massive amounts of habitat. After the waves do their trick, near-shore habitats would be devastated because the entire ocean floor is covered in olivine. I am a former geophysicist by th…

Once people realize the true impact of climate change they are going to be desperate enough to attempt anything that even shows a tiny glimmer of hope. The only problem is that some people pretend that this glimmer is a guaranteed solution.

There is a guaranteed solution to stop it from becoming apocalyptic which is comparatively easy and cheap, and we know it would work: just move away from fossil fuels and carbon intensive production ASAP. This requires political will we don't have, and fantasies like this just distract from what is necessary and the steps we must take.

These kind of pie-in-the-sky things takes money and attention from real solutions that work. They are false hopes that make people complacent and the problem seem less urgent, thinking that we'll tech our way out without fundamental changes to how we live on this planet.

Re: Stripe Climate

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post #141

Is there anywhere I can credibly pay any reasonable amount of money to offset my CO2 emissions? I would be willing to pay a monthly salary for this, if the effect can be demonstrated to be sustainable and permanent. I've been wondering how the various companies that have CO2 offset programs do it; whether it's credible or not.

One is tempted to advise, lower your carbon footprint to start with! But its hard to figure out how. Most of the public infrastructure we use to survive is beyond our control. Drive or take the bus? Which is better? Or walk, but the extra food you consume is a worse contributor to your footprint! So remain a couch potato and work from home. But illness, depression and early decrepitude cost society too, which has its impact on CO2 footprint...

Re: Stripe Climate

#147

Carbon capture is necessary in the long term, for particular emissions that are hard to avoid (like specific industrial processes and parts of agriculture). But while we're still pumping out emissions that can be easily and cheaply displaced today, like coal and gas fired grid electricity, then the money being spent on carbon capture is being spent terribly ineffectively. And globally, we don't have the time or money…

> Carbon capture is necessary in the long term

When it comes to long-term technologies, they just don't become ready when you need them. We need to start investing in them today so they're ready when we need them to operate at scale.

One thing to consider is that "carbon capture" can be a good stopgap approach to long-term energy storage. For example, use the extra sunlight in the summer to run carbon capture, and then on shorter winter days burn fossil fuels.

Re: Stripe Climate

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I am curious to know what the business case looked like to get "climate" added as a feature to the product roadmap in a for-profit company.

Corporate green-washing initiatives like this just make our economic system look good, while doing no meaningful good. These corporations have political power, but they don't use it to solve this crisis.

Re: Stripe Climate

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>carbon removal . . . smells of indulgences Do you believe a religious metaphor to be useful for understanding climate change? Do you believe adding CO2 molecules to the air to be intrinsically sinful with the result that no amount of subsequent removal of CO2 can wash away the sin?

Well, indulgences are basically fraud and CO2 offsets that do not materialize are also fraud. The problem isn't on the buyer side. It's that the seller is inherently going to break his promises and defraud you for a penny.

Sure, but CO2 removal can be funded otherwise than by CO2 offsets or carbon credits -- by a tax on fossil fuels, for example. It is even possible that research can be targeted at using the carbon removed from the atmosphere for fuel or for production of plastic. Burning the carbon (again) as fuel results in no net reduction in atmospheric CO2 of course, but it would probably replace fossil fuels (just as any other renewable source of energy would) and if it ever looks to become profitable, then that would tend to cause increases in the efficiency of CO2-removal tech at no expense to the taxpayer with the result that any CO2-removal efforts not funded by profit-motivated fuel production (e.g., taxpayer funded CO2 removal) become more efficient.

But my main point is that global warming is eminently amenable to technical solutions similar to how for example putting humans on the moon was eminently amenable. Not all societal concerns are so amenable, but for those that are, it seems to me very suboptimal to resort to analogies with religious concepts in public discussions of the concern.

My first comment has a score of -4 now by the way.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only hope that those driving the division (older people) will be dead soon, so that the younger generations who are by and large more eco-friendly can get on with the difficult work that needs to be done. Its past time for the old, rotten way of thinking to be plowed under.

I'm not entirely convinced older people are driving the division.

Yeah, it's a class conflict and class/wealth is correlated with age. Bernie (who is old last I checked) being one of the biggest supporters gives the lie to this.
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