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Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook

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Re: Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook

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Post by ffpip »

plasma wrote: post #10
wilt wrote: post #6

I hate AMP. It is just a tech to give google more control. Anything to helps kill it off is a good thing. It is possible to create pages that load fast on mobile without it.

Reddit's AMP is terrible, I wish I could opt-out.

Reddit's AMP implementation makes me think they genuinely stopped giving a fuck about users.

Re: Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook

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Post by ffpip »

ec109685 wrote: post #9
ffpip wrote: post #3

Google gives special preference to AMP sites in search, images and google news. Google is also removing non-AMP URLs from Google News. fucking everything is loaded from their servers nowadays

They removed the special preference: https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2020/05/evaluating-page-ex...

Yeah, but they got what they wanted. Every news site enabled AMP, and nobody will change it back now.

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Post by t-writescode »

wilt wrote: post #6

I hate AMP. It is just a tech to give google more control. Anything to helps kill it off is a good thing. It is possible to create pages that load fast on mobile without it.

_anything_ ? That's a scary precedent you've given there. You want a poorly-written law that can be used and abused to disallow lots of other websites, including archive.org (it's easy enough to imagine) to get rid of AMP?

Be careful what you wish for.

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Post by septillianator »

The media cycle is a money grab anyway you slice.I couldnt careless about the misfortune of any news medium while things are in the current state. Everyone of them prioritize their news coverage based on clicks. 2020 has been the gold rush for all media big or small capitalizing on a nation that is falling apart.A complete overhaul of media is needed. Not this tid for tat. Put some energy in the places that matter.

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Post by cute_boi »

ffpip wrote: post #3

Google gives special preference to AMP sites in search, images and google news. Google is also removing non-AMP URLs from Google News. fucking everything is loaded from their servers nowadays

ads is literally destroying internet and these ads company are milking so much profit and we cannot do anything otherthan using adblocker and firefox :(

Re: Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook

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Post by mhh__ »

ffpip wrote: post #11
plasma wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit's AMP is terrible, I wish I could opt-out.

Reddit's AMP implementation makes me think they genuinely stopped giving a fuck about users.

They must have calculated they can't survive at their current ad impression rates, hence the forcing people onto their app at literally any cost these days.

It wouldn't be as much of a problem if the app actually worked well, but it doesn't

Re: Lawmakers Want to Protect Local Newspapers From Google, Facebook

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Post by gravypod »

ffpip wrote: post #3

Google gives special preference to AMP sites in search, images and google news. Google is also removing non-AMP URLs from Google News. fucking everything is loaded from their servers nowadays

Amp, for whatever you might feel about it, is the best content loading experience for people with poor internet. Launch up an AVD and set it to use a 3g roaming profile and try and load up NY Times AMP and non-AMP.

I'm not a fan of the implementation personally but something like this needs to exist for developing markets. I didn't know how bad this was until I started working with someone in Brazil and saw he has 2Mbps internet. His internet is faster than some in China and india.

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

gravypod wrote: post #17
ffpip wrote: post #3

Google gives special preference to AMP sites in search, images and google news. Google is also removing non-AMP URLs from Google News. fucking everything is loaded from their servers nowadays

Amp, for whatever you might feel about it, is the best content loading experience for people with poor internet. Launch up an AVD and set it to use a 3g roaming profile and try and load up NY Times AMP and non-AMP. I'm not a fan of the implementation personally but something like this needs to exist for developing markets. I didn't know how bad this was until I started working with someone in Brazil and saw he has 2M…

Wouldn't the invisible hand of the market solve this?

If your site is slow, either the share of good customers plummet and you fix it, and customers you don't want leave and you are happy.

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Post by josefx »

plasma wrote: post #10
wilt wrote: post #6

I hate AMP. It is just a tech to give google more control. Anything to helps kill it off is a good thing. It is possible to create pages that load fast on mobile without it.

Reddit's AMP is terrible, I wish I could opt-out.

old.reddit.com? I think they also have an option for it when you are logged in.
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