Thank you so much for this. I have wanted something like this since getting off Facebook.
Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
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Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is Mastodon censored? Specific instances or is the general community actively censoring content across instances?
My understanding is that the project founder and/or leads are pursuing a campaign to pressure all instances to not peer with instances on their political blacklist, and adding those who refuse to their peering demands to the blacklist. In effect the “fediverse” that is claimed as a benefit is in name only. I’m not sure what benefit the project offers anymore over centralized platforms since it is becoming the same th…
The project "leads" or owners can only choose what happens to their own instances! If they choose not to interact with instances they disagree with, they should be allowed to do that; after all, they are hosting and administering their instances.
Now if you create your own instance you can interact with every instance but they might not want to interact with yours.
I don't understand how this makes it more centralised, please explain further. If anything, as an instance admin I would very much like to keep the freedom to choose with whom I want to interact with.
The fediverse currently is also quite different than e.g. the email ecosystem. While we have big providers like GMail and Outlook there, companies have not really ventured into Mastodon yet. Instances like mastodon.social are run and moderated mostly by volunteers. So while the voice of mastodons creators might be influential, it really shouldn't pose a threat to you or your instance.
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#93What else is there in this field ?
If you mean the field of people organising events on open source decentralised software, I think there is: * https://framagit.org/les/gancio * https://github.com/lowercasename/gathio * https://github.com/GetTogetherComm/GetTogether * https://github.com/hometown-fork/hometown Mastodon fork with basic event stuff (This is not to take away from Mobilizon - congrats to them!)
It doesn't look like Hometown supports events:
> If you've dreamed of a fediverse where you can send out calendar events and RSVP to things, well, this doesn't do that but it's a step in the right direction because it encourages rich content types.
https://github.com/hometown-fork/hometown/wiki/More-content-...
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#94This got me surprised: "Mobilizon is designed so that you can follow the news of a group, but not of an individual : it is impossible to follow a single profile. In Mobilizon, profiles have no « wall », « thread » or « story » : only groups can publish posts. The goal is to get rid of the self-promotional reflexes where we stage our lives to be the person at the center of our followers. With Mobilizon, it is not the…
Seeing that a significant portion of activists are "activists" for purely reasons feeding their own ego and self worth, I see this as a net win for weeding such people out. That said, if this does catch on, you can probably expect such people to start signing their content even if the system specifically doesn't support it.
Just a matter of creating a person specific group, no?
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#95I feel like this misses the point. People dislike Facebook and other centralized platforms not because they're centralized per-se, but because the user experience is terrible (due to mismatched incentives - these platforms make money off ads, so their only objective is to make you engage with the ads as much as possible). The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched incentives (either paid for, ran b…
> I feel like this misses the point. > The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched incentives (either paid for, ran by donations, etc) but that otherwise has the user experience of the mainsteam platforms. The argument by people in favor of this stuff is that federated technologies best avoid and resist those mismatched incentives, because any centralized gatekeeper, not matter how benevolently foun…
>Think about the recent .org debacle
I missed that one. Can anyone offer a few keywords? "org debacle" isn't search friendly.
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#96I'm very pleased to see this launch, but have one feature request - and I'm posting it here because it's a request I would make to anyone doing event software. Please have open feeds in iCal format for your site, including one that lets people get all public data. This will make the data on your website so much more reusable and useful. And definetly iCal - it's so popular, and most personal calendars can even import…
please fill an issue on the forge at https://framagit.org/framasoft/mobilizon/-/issues
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#97I'm very pleased to see this launch, but have one feature request - and I'm posting it here because it's a request I would make to anyone doing event software. Please have open feeds in iCal format for your site, including one that lets people get all public data. This will make the data on your website so much more reusable and useful. And definetly iCal - it's so popular, and most personal calendars can even import…
please fill an issue on the forge at https://framagit.org/framasoft/mobilizon/-/issues
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#98Looks like they self-host their source code too: https://framagit.org/framasoft/mobilizon/ It appears to be developed in some language called "Euphoria"?? That's such a strange choice and is going to seriously limit contributions from other developers.
Mobilizon is written in Elixir because it is based on Pleroma, a Mastodon-compatible/Mastodon-alternative server for the Fediverse. Elixir isn't one of the most popular langs out there, but it is far from being a "niche" language. Okay that was a lot of words. Maybe I should explain for those less familiar: Users on the Fediverse can interact without being aware of the fact that their servers are running completely d…
That's very interesting. Does it mean that any Fediverse account can interact with any Mobilizon instance ? Or is the Mobilizon-space split from the Fediverse-space
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I feel like this misses the point. > The solution is a platform that doesn't have these mismatched incentives (either paid for, ran by donations, etc) but that otherwise has the user experience of the mainsteam platforms. The argument by people in favor of this stuff is that federated technologies best avoid and resist those mismatched incentives, because any centralized gatekeeper, not matter how benevolently foun…
>Think about the recent .org debacle I missed that one. Can anyone offer a few keywords? "org debacle" isn't search friendly.
This should get you started: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/04/eff-other-nonprofits-a...
Re: Mobilizon – A free, federated tool for events and groups
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mobilizon is written in Elixir because it is based on Pleroma, a Mastodon-compatible/Mastodon-alternative server for the Fediverse. Elixir isn't one of the most popular langs out there, but it is far from being a "niche" language. Okay that was a lot of words. Maybe I should explain for those less familiar: Users on the Fediverse can interact without being aware of the fact that their servers are running completely d…
That's very interesting. Does it mean that any Fediverse account can interact with any Mobilizon instance ? Or is the Mobilizon-space split from the Fediverse-space
Interaction should be possible if the necessary APIs are implemented. Pleroma, Mastodon, Peertube, Pixelfed, etc. can already all interact with each other very well; just a few minutes ago, I was able to comment [0] [1] on a Peertube video of a Downfall parody from my Pleroma account and have both show up in my timeline. Mobilizon should be no different; If you follow a Mobilizon user from your Pleroma/Mastodon/etc. account, their posts should appear in your timeline as if they were Pleroma/Mastodon/etc. posts.
[0]: the comment visible on the Pleroma instance I use: https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A0gttmh25xyOTRPgno
[1]: the comment visible on the Peertube instance of the original poster: https://video.hackers.town/videos/watch/5405dac8-05c1-4512-b...