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Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by chrstphrknwtn »

marrone12 wrote: post #37
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you, and I think this is a pretty good signal that Sketch is REALLY feeling the heat from Figma, because they aren't offering a better argument besides "we're native". The bandwagon has clearly jumped off Sketch and onto Figma, and not because it's "fashionable", but because Figma is plain awesome.

Yep. Our company switched to Figma and it's been leaps and bounds better for productivity. Having multiple people working on the same design file at the same time has been huge.

This sounds like hell to me as a designer.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by nl »

robertoandred wrote: post #29
untog wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People uses Macs because they want to use Macs and software that takes advantage of the reliability and consistency of that ecosystem ehhh. I think if you did some analytics of “apps Mac users use” an absolute ton would be “a web browser and very little else”. I can think of very few truly native Mac apps I depend upon and that keep me on the platform. What does keep me on Macs is that every now and then I need to…

Just because you use non-native apps doesn't mean you like them. I mean, does anyone actually like Slack?

I like Slack and use it heavily. I'm signed in to 22 Slack instances in my current instance on my 2017 MBP.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by purplecats »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #39

I wouldn't be proud to keep developing on Apple's platforms considering they're an utter pain these days to continue to support as well as them being outwardly hostile. I wouldn't bank my company's existence on a another company that could not care less if I existed. Much less would I praise and bend over backwards to promote someone else's products other than my own in my marketing materials like this. What a bizarr…

corporate cuckship

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by wmf »

beervirus wrote: post #26
asien wrote: post #18

Reminds me of Blackberry that decided to stick to keyboard and went bankrupt. Users don’t care about native or not , they care only about innovation.

Users may (or may not!) say that they don't care about native apps... but they absolutely notice and care about whether the app is slow and awkward. Native apps are much nicer to use than the lowest-common-denominator garbage you get otherwise.

Users care all else being equal, but the point of this thread is that Sketch is not equal to Figma and being native isn't enough to overcome the difference.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

jlundberg wrote: post #14
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #12

This is great, but I no longer feel that the macOS HIG represents usable design for anybody. Apple's native apps are confusing and inconsistent. XCode is perhaps the worst offender. (Is that because it's okay to ship sub-par experiences to developers? ) My opinion is that Google's UX is now best in class -- things like Google Docs that are just nearing perfection that everyone seems to have no trouble with. Youtube w…

One specific thing that Google does terribly UI-wise is the G Suite admin panel.

Meh, it's pretty bad, but I can't think of any backoffice tool admin panels that are any better.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by whoisjuan »

Figma is eating them brutally. I'm a designer and everyone I know (and their companies) are moving away from Sketch. Figma understood that the breakthrough of this market is to create a platform, not a tool. Building a native app is not going to help you win this market. That's for sure.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by nl »

soylentgraham wrote: post #40
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #12

This is great, but I no longer feel that the macOS HIG represents usable design for anybody. Apple's native apps are confusing and inconsistent. XCode is perhaps the worst offender. (Is that because it's okay to ship sub-par experiences to developers? ) My opinion is that Google's UX is now best in class -- things like Google Docs that are just nearing perfection that everyone seems to have no trouble with. Youtube w…

Finding specific documents from all different people/domains when you have hundreds, with obfuscated urls, is a nightmare with docs/sheets. There is zero organisation.

This is so true.

They are obviously trying - I keep seeing things like workspaces and pinning docs that are obviously experiments in trying to fix it. But not there yet!

I do agree that the Google Suite of tools are very usable though.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by TN1ck »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #27
asien wrote: post #18

Reminds me of Blackberry that decided to stick to keyboard and went bankrupt. Users don’t care about native or not , they care only about innovation.

I care about native or not. I do not want inconsistent slow UI that overheats my laptop and kills its battery as if I am streaming 4K video.

Problem with that statement in this context is, that the web based solution Figma is actually more performant than the native Sketch.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by freetonik »

asien wrote: post #18

Reminds me of Blackberry that decided to stick to keyboard and went bankrupt. Users don’t care about native or not , they care only about innovation.

I think it's an oversimplification to say that Blackberry went bankrupt because they decided to stick to keyboard. They could've innovated while keeping the keyboard.
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