I'm always surprised how much petty bitching people do about Apple.
A Guy Walks into an Apple Store
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#42Just get a usbc to usba adaptor. Of course if you want top of the line stuff, pay more. If they include it, the price goes up but of course you don’t complaint because you don’t notice it every year you brought an iPhone.
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#43Everything in my life is now using USB-C charging, except for my iPhone. Is there a technical reason why Apple prefers their lightning cable over USB-C, or is it purely business related?
On the other hand, I still don't own a single USB-C device or cable and I just bought the 2020 iPhone SE.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have heard a lot of speculation that the move to remove the charger was motivated by Apple's desire to sell more chargers, but I suspect that they could care less about moving chargers. I believe it is profit motivated, but the real reason is the massive savings they will get on logistics by fitting almost 50% more iPhones in a shipping container by removing the charger. If they pass some of that savings onto the c…
> but the real reason is the massive savings they will get on logistics When positing causes, I suggest you learn how to do back-of-the-envelope calculations in your head. A container can hold a lot of iPhones. The cost of transport is trivial in comparison to the value, so the profitability delta is very small. I.e. I think you are making up stuff.
Yeah sure, the price of logistics is probably tiny compared to the BOM of an individual phone, but at the scale Apple is operating on, make no mistake this is saving them a huge amount of money.
And it's not just logistics - it's storage space in warehouses, and probably a number of other things which are made substantially more efficient by fitting the same amount of units in a lot less space.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. But it's not the optimal experience.
For me it's an optimal experience: my device cost went down, I get to choose what I spend that money on (such as superior 3rd-party chargers with multiple ports), and I get the satisfaction of knowing that Apple didn't waste planetary resources making inflexible single-port chargers and $5 wired earbuds that I will never, ever use. I do admit that it's not optimal for every single user, but I do think it's a net impr…
> For me it's an optimal experience
You are a one off use case. The standard deviation for your experience is pretty large. Especially for first time iPhone buyers.
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#46I don't think even the most hardcore Apple superfans are buying the "reducing waste" argument. They have the right to make their products more expensive, and that's fine. People are going to keep buying them regardless.
I’m fairly in the fan camp. It seems like both an eco play and a profit play. I don’t care about the latter. In fact, I should probably support it because for DECADES businesses have been refusing to do the necessary eco work because it was too costly. Apple have found a way to tick both the boxes. I should buy shares.
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#47Had they not recently changed the charging options (shipping USB-C cables and MagSafe) and stuck with the classical Lightning to USB-A scheme I would have been fine with Apple not bundling the cables and chargers in the box. Because most folks have them in excess and these don't ever die. But since they changed the charging options, it really feels like a cost cutting measure they are trying really hard to spin as an…
Why do you want a USB-A charging cable in 2020? My laptops don't have that anymore, and I don't even have recent laptops. Like most people I know would have to to use a dongle. No thanks. Move as quickly as possible to USB-C, please Apple, and no need for charging bricks anymore. > it really feels like a cost cutting measure they are trying really hard to spin as an eco-friendly one This is cynical.
"Why do you want a USB-A charging cable in 2020?"
Lots of wall socket USB charging ports are USB-A - even nice new ones with qualcomm quick charge (or whatever it is).
Personally, I would much prefer utility ports (on the wall, in the rack, on the backs of computers) to remain USB-A and leave the mini connectors on the devices themselves...
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#48Here's what the article claims: "Now tell me, do you have Apple's 20W USB-C charging brick to use with this? It doesn't come with a charging brick either, and to get the advertised speeds then you need to use that brick. Literally no other charging bricks will get that speed." Here's what's actually true: Any USB-C charger with a port on it capable of 20W or higher (including all extant USB-C Mac chargers and all ext…
Actually, per this article [1] that may not be the case. Copying a comment from reddit: > PD has certain charging ‘profiles’. > For example Apples 30W USB-C charger can work at: > 15 watts (5 volts @ 3 amps), 27 watts (9 volts @ 3 amps), 30 watts (15 volts @ 2 amps), and 30 watts (20 volts @ 1.5 amps) > The MagSafe puck supports none of those for some reason. So it drops down to ~5W which is a safe backup amount for…
Would be interesting to see what PD profile it's negotiating here that is different. I wouldn't be surprised if Anker et al. come out with MagSafe 15W compatible chargers shortly. Seems like it might be a 9V 1.8A profile or something silly?
I'm surprised some of these tech YouTubers that do this stuff don't have a proper USB-PD profile analyzer. Something like this could find all the secrets necessary for Anker to recreate a functional brick: https://www.totalphase.com/products/usb-power-delivery-analy...
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. But it's not the optimal experience.
For me it's an optimal experience: my device cost went down, I get to choose what I spend that money on (such as superior 3rd-party chargers with multiple ports), and I get the satisfaction of knowing that Apple didn't waste planetary resources making inflexible single-port chargers and $5 wired earbuds that I will never, ever use. I do admit that it's not optimal for every single user, but I do think it's a net impr…
Gahaha, this has to be a joke.
Man, Apple doesn't even need a marketing department when they got fans willing to die on a hill for them.
I refuse to believe that you are so obtuse to think that your device cost went down. Apple keeps increasing the price each year regardless of circumstances, their cost went down, not yours.
What we should congratulate them for is to be able to skimp out on users, sell them a story about eco-friendly awareness and make it out like a bandit.
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#50These "bitch and moan about Apple" posts on here are so tiresome. They're not smart, they're not funny, and serve zero purpose, except to cater to the echo chamber.
Meanwhile Apple's phones continue to be extremely profitable.
Lots of downvotes - I get it, I hit you where it hurts. But tell me where I'm wrong, discuss with me?