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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Do you mean that you have a tag-cloud in Org? Is there a package for that?

Uploaded a cut-down version of my diary.org file here: https://github.com/skx/org-worklog That shows the tag-cloud and the necessary magic to update it on-save.

Have you tried to combine that with caldav?

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#162
post #44

Having a graph-based interface for the relationships is nice. But i think this works best with big monitor (think 43'') and when the graph is the main interface, not just a small window somewhere. I.e. display the content of nodes directly in an infinite-pan&zoom graph view. Code reading could be nice this way. I suppose mentally one builds up a similar graph everytime reading through code. And eventually get lost. O…

I'm planning to create a (probably written in Vulkan, so it will be ambitious...) project where I want to leverage modern 3D graphics for displaying potentially very large graphs in an intuitive & interactive way. I'm trying to target use cases such as note taking and mind-mapping as well as code browsing and git repo browsing as I see many potential ways to create visualization capability (via unification) across th…

This also spooks through my mind.

Some thoughts: Source code should be able to fall back to editable text when necessary.

Multiple Projections to view/interface the same data with different views must be possible.

Optimal would be that it integrates any editor I'd like (I want sublime, others not so much). Ideally other file formats like word documents, latex documents etc. should also be supported. But that sounds very hard, basically makes the whole thing an infinte pan zoom graph based window manager (with all the other graph related features). Hm.. Maybe this all really is on the operating system level.

I favor html as base technology for the reason of easily including different "apps", like code editors, pdf viewers, webgl content, etc.

But thats just because I don't really want to develop this at the window manager/operating system level... Honestly I feel html is too slow for what I really want. There is a reason I use sublime and not VSCode, even it is just a millisecond or so.

I hope more people think in similar directions with the graph based interface. May one day some hero actually succeed with what we envision. I encourage you to be that one!

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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post #162

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I'm planning to create a (probably written in Vulkan, so it will be ambitious...) project where I want to leverage modern 3D graphics for displaying potentially very large graphs in an intuitive & interactive way. I'm trying to target use cases such as note taking and mind-mapping as well as code browsing and git repo browsing as I see many potential ways to create visualization capability (via unification) across th…

This also spooks through my mind. Some thoughts: Source code should be able to fall back to editable text when necessary. Multiple Projections to view/interface the same data with different views must be possible. Optimal would be that it integrates any editor I'd like (I want sublime, others not so much). Ideally other file formats like word documents, latex documents etc. should also be supported. But that sounds v…

One more thing: I am also toying with the idea of using Jupyter notebooks as a starting point. One could relatively easy derive relationships between code cells and display them in graph based view instead of linear sequence. Then go further and add projections for AST.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#164
post #112

I was curious what was different about this than Roam/Obsidian/ect. and checked the FAQ: > Dendron is a highly opinionated note taking tool that focuses on hierarchal note taking. It provides the freedom of Roam’s every note exists everywhere philosophy while layering on top flexible hierarchies to keep track of it all. [0] Not sure how I feel about that approach. However, it does look pretty polished and I'll likely…

It seems that the core features of Dendron correspond most closely to Obsidian's, to the point that I thought it's an Obsidian skin, but Obsidian is closed source while Dendron isn't. Roam is a Web app whose unit of data is a text block - Obsidian's and Dendron's unit of data is a file Markdown file.

There is a way to link to individual blocks now (paragraphs in Obsidian speak). And an alpha plugin API has just been unveiled to the insiders.

(No affiliation, just a happy insider)

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#165

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Uploaded a cut-down version of my diary.org file here: https://github.com/skx/org-worklog That shows the tag-cloud and the necessary magic to update it on-save.

I cannot get it to work with M-x new-day, is there something other I need to do than have the document open? Thanks for sharing btw.

You need to evaluate the lisp at the bottom of the file, so that `M-x new-day`, `M-x today` and the other stuff gets loaded.

I've got a bit of code in my init-files that does that automatically, that's linked to in the readme. But as a quick alternative you can scroll down to the end, to the line that starts:

    "(defun new-day"
Select that line, and all the way down to the line that reads "(require 'ob-org)", and then run "M-x eval-region". That will evaluate the region and make the two new commands available.

Otherwise copy and paste the lisp from here into your emacs init file, and reload everything:

https://github.com/skx/dotfiles/blob/master/.emacs.d/init.md...

That will cause anything named `skx-startblock` to be evaluated automatically from an org-file on-load, and will also run the contents of `skx-saveblock` before saving any org-file, if present.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#167

I miss Typora's WYSIWYG Markdown editing in VS Code. For a note-taking, two pane window (one for editing and one for preview) makes very less sense.

What do you mean you "miss" it? Typora has a stand-alone app that works great.

Did it used to be a VS Code extension?

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#168

I miss Typora's WYSIWYG Markdown editing in VS Code. For a note-taking, two pane window (one for editing and one for preview) makes very less sense.

What do you mean you "miss" it? Typora has a stand-alone app that works great. Did it used to be a VS Code extension?

Typora's markdown experience is great. I wish to see the same in VSCode. It isn't feasible to use Typora just for markdown and VSCode for other type of files.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#169
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

paper is a technology

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#170
post #147

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> Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. Our brain works wonders, yet mysteriously. I can somehow locate notes I wrote by hand on notebooks years ago. I remember the sketches, the color and size of the notebook, the location on the shelves ... and sometimes, finding the note isn’t impor…

I definitely agree that our brains work wonders and I'm not denying the main point you're making at all, but there is also an element of confirmation bias inherent here because you'll never look for the notes you don't remember taking. Going over old notebooks I've been astonished at the patterns I've uncovered of thinking about similar ideas and having similar insights over and over, each time not recalling that I'v…

Oh you are right for sure but it’s a whole different point.

I don’t know how our memory works and I guess our passion / interest plays an important part, as your conscious thoughts revisits those subjects as a routine.

I am just noticing how the multidimensional characteristics of hand written notes seem to provide “more ways” to search and explore our memory. Just like having both a spatial and a full text indices.

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