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Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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It's well within their rights as a private company, right? We need to have a serious discussion about the power these FAANGs are exerting and we need to stop making excuses for them.

Yes, the FAANGs are very close to being public utilities, and therefore deserve a special treatment.

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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I don't understand what the researchers violated - it looks like they didn't sign the FB's EULA, nor did they perform anything resembling CFAA violation.

It is the FB users who signed the EULA and use "unapproved" user-agent to access FB services and to voluntarily share the data (isn't FB a sharing platform btw?) in "unapproved" way. Thus FB should go after the real violators - their users. I wonder why FB didn't do it ...

I mean i can write any stupid EULA, yet until you agree to it my C&D based on that EULA is just my personal hallucinations, and even if you agree to it, your communication/business/etc. partners don't magically become bound by it too.

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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It's well within their rights as a private company, right? We need to have a serious discussion about the power these FAANGs are exerting and we need to stop making excuses for them.

Is it within the rights of a company to dictate what software I have installed on my personal machine? If Facebook wants to ban every account using the software that is within their rights, but they don't get a say in what I have installed.

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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And this is why I will refuse to take any calls from Facebook researchers. It's bad enough that Facebook is disproportionately used by Right Wing Trolls and Authoritarians. See [1] for more information about why this is so.

[1] https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-maria-ressa-weap...

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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FB claims automated data collection, the data is apparently input to the app by a user , i think the hairs will be split between copy paste mechaniics, or ten finger entry in response to prompt, thus massaging the definition of automated entry.

(1)FB has consistently refused to publish anything about how the ads are targeted.

(2)The NYU researchers have tried to fill that gap, offering the Ad Observer plug-in to users who want to voluntarily donate the ads they see — along with the limited targeting data FB displays to users.

(3)Here’s where things get troubling: Facebook is now trying to shut down the Ad Observer plug-in, saying that it violates Facebook’s terms of service by automating the collection of data that Facebook shows to its users.

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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It's well within their rights as a private company, right? We need to have a serious discussion about the power these FAANGs are exerting and we need to stop making excuses for them.

How was their acquisition of Instagram and Whatsapp legal? Haven't antitrust laws broken up companies for less?

Re: Facebook has sent a cease-and-desist letter to researchers

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It's well within their rights as a private company, right? We need to have a serious discussion about the power these FAANGs are exerting and we need to stop making excuses for them.

Well within their rights to do what? They certainly have access to the courts.
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