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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by petra »

SamBam wrote: post #30

I haven't yet really tried to commit to one of these Roam-like tools (is there a word for a note-taking tool where every bullet is a nested note, and they can link to each other?), except for a small demo notebook I made, but I wonder how people feel they mesh with the concept of "evergreen" notes. I've found from using Evernote for a decade that I've really focussed on making evergreen notes -- notes that I continue…

Zettlekasten might be one form of synthesis , mostly through the link structure, and not via a linear article form.

It does take some more work though. So the easy ness is an issue.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 »

joubert wrote: post #109
_huayra_ wrote: post #106

It's frustrating but completely understandable that the author chose to do this in VScode. The value of having a highly-customizable editor that is extensible in a well-known language is great. I really hope a true VSCode competitor will emerge in the future that is truly open source and not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind; all this Linux-friendly stuff Microsoft is doing l…

“Embrace, extend, and extinguish”

He was being sarcastic.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by jmiskovic »

kevinslin wrote: post #58
nullandvoid wrote: post #16

This is really interesting for me. I've just got into roam the last few months after an intertest in trying zettelkasten (and my notion growing rather unwieldly), but the $15/m is grinding at me. The idea I'll be locked in at that price forever more doesn't sit well For me org-roam doesn't scratch the portability itch (easily add notes on my phone etc), but I'm actively looking for alternatives I can make the jump fo…

Thanks for the props. As with all things, its a matter of tradeoffs. Dendron started its life as a standalone app (eg. think Obsidian) but I quickly realized I was spending most of my time building undifferentiated editor scaffolding instead of focusing on the hierarchies and schemas that made Dendron unique. I wanted to spend more time building out features that supported Dendron's [hiearchy first approach]( https:/…

Can you point us in direction of sublime and vim ports? I searched around and came up empty.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by roblabla »

PeterStuer wrote: post #115
_huayra_ wrote: post #106

It's frustrating but completely understandable that the author chose to do this in VScode. The value of having a highly-customizable editor that is extensible in a well-known language is great. I really hope a true VSCode competitor will emerge in the future that is truly open source and not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind; all this Linux-friendly stuff Microsoft is doing l…

Would the MIT license on vscode not protect you from the scenario you entertain? Don't get me wrong. VS Code is most certainly a loss leader for the Microsoft ecosystem. This businessmodel for gaining developer mindshare is not new. It was pioneered by the free software ecosystem, but has been the defacto standard for some time now.

Only if people are willing to pick up the maintenance when Microsoft stops working in the open. Now TBF, there are a lot of forks and quasi-forks (VSCodium, Eclipse Theia) that there's hope that there are orgs and people outside microsoft that do know vscode well enough to pick up maintenance if it came to that.

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Post by dTal »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #98
rovr138 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much space have you found is good for an index?

Not the poster you asked, but I keep one at the end of a notebook for exactly this reason: I don't have to guess how much space it will need.

And you write it backwards from the end? Otherwise I don't see how this solves the issue.

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Post by jack_riminton »

detritus wrote: post #26
dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I do most note-taking on paper. Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. My problems are probably more due to ad hoc disorganisation - particularly, sometimes going off-piste and making critical notes on random sheets of paper, away from my main notebooks. I'd love some kind of e-paper so…

Has anyone found a good method of taking photos of notebook pages? I used to user Evernote, and even experimented with their proprietary OCR dot paper but it never really stuck because Evernote isn't great (and the searchability of words sucked)

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by chrisweekly »

_huayra_ wrote: post #106

It's frustrating but completely understandable that the author chose to do this in VScode. The value of having a highly-customizable editor that is extensible in a well-known language is great. I really hope a true VSCode competitor will emerge in the future that is truly open source and not controlled by a company that does not have its users best interests in mind; all this Linux-friendly stuff Microsoft is doing l…

You make some good points, but it's worth pointing out that Sublime isn't OSS, whereas VSC is.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by chrisweekly »

dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I use both, because resilience matters more to me than efficiency.

Moleskine Cahier quad-ruled paper journals (with a modified/hybrid bullet-journal approach) ... plus RoamResearch.

Some day I may get around to writing about my system.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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Post by chrisweekly »

detritus wrote: post #26
dvt wrote: post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I do most note-taking on paper. Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. My problems are probably more due to ad hoc disorganisation - particularly, sometimes going off-piste and making critical notes on random sheets of paper, away from my main notebooks. I'd love some kind of e-paper so…

bullet-journal -style numbered pages with an index goes a long way. my digital notes sometimes simply reference a journal # and page #.
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