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Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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post #2

I've always wanted a better way to document and structure arguments/debates. Assertions can have supporting statements (as children), that can be further expanded and evaluated. This way, I can evaluate and discard branches, distilling an argument to what matters. Would a tool like this help me?

You may be interested in Hypernomicon

http://hypernomicon.org/

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#72
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

When I went back to school to get my CS degree, I developed a pretty strict habit of only taking my lecture notes by hand, usually by printing out the lecture slides in advance and then annotating them with a bright turquoise fountain pen ink. Nowadays, for work, I use Org mode. Apart from the convenience of always having it to hand in my editor, being able to insert hyperlinks in my notes to specific lines in our source code is a game changer.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#73
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

Cons: Not searchable, not interconnected, following references is very slow

Pros: There seems to be something inherently meaningful (read: brain lights up, it’s got sensory depth and intellectual weight) about doing tactile pen/paper notes since many people report better engagement and higher retention when doing pen/paper (myself included)

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#74
post #47

The web platform I've created ( https://quanta.wiki ) has a lot of these same design principles, and I run a local copy of it for my personal note-taking. Some day there should emerge some kind of de-facto winner in this category, because it's so sad that it's 2020 and there's still not a super wide-spread mass-adoption kind of general purpose app for handling hierarchical data and interacting with it. When XML was i…

Interesting but your app promotes this list of culture-war entertainers [0] and presents them as the "Intellectual Dark Web", including Ben "just sell your underwater house if the sea levels rise" Shapiro; that's a big red flag [0] https://quanta.wiki/app?id=5ca14747487e8f0001a3bcff#5ca25b1a...

I do plan on moving the IDW Podcast list to under my own personal blog node instead, and not directly on the portal, only because politics should be kept separate from career stuff imo.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#75
post #2

I've always wanted a better way to document and structure arguments/debates. Assertions can have supporting statements (as children), that can be further expanded and evaluated. This way, I can evaluate and discard branches, distilling an argument to what matters. Would a tool like this help me?

Another one https://www.kialo.com/tour

I really find Kialo to be awesome for focusing the random arguments that see:to happen so much online. There are basically zero duplications in arguments since there’s a spot specifically for each one.

There are some things I would change, but I’m happy about the time and effort I’ve put in to the discussions there.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#76
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I do most note-taking on paper. Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. My problems are probably more due to ad hoc disorganisation - particularly, sometimes going off-piste and making critical notes on random sheets of paper, away from my main notebooks. I'd love some kind of e-paper so…

> Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today.

Our brain works wonders, yet mysteriously. I can somehow locate notes I wrote by hand on notebooks years ago. I remember the sketches, the color and size of the notebook, the location on the shelves ... and sometimes, finding the note isn’t important because I have actually memorized it.

It could a visual memory thing, reinforced by 20+ years of pen and paper school system. Were I 20 years younger and having been taught on tablets/xxx, I could have developed a different long term memory system. As of today, writing down notes on my computer feels like offloading my brain to disk. When writing notes of paper/iPad, it feels like writing to my brain.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#77
post #23

Unsure about the tool being a vscode plugin. I like my current note taking app (ZimWiki) partly due to it being standalone.

I wish ZimWiki would be Markdown based instead of Wiki markup based.

Not that far https://github.com/zim-desktop-wiki/zim-desktop-wiki/issues/...

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#78
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I use multiple media.

Nothing beats the fluidity, ubiquity and the sheer aesthetic quality of pen on paper. Excellent for diagrams and notes as I am discussing something on a call, or explaining things (mostly yo myself) consuming information dense video or audio content.

But I don't always have my notebook on me, and I tend to loose bits of paper easily. So to capture thoughts, I use "email thyself" on my phone.

Every once a few weeks, I clear out my inbox. Most notes go to junk. Some get cross referenced. Fewer still become actual files in my git repo.

My git repo is just a versioned bunch of files with upto 2 levels of hierarchy.

This works amazingly well, for capturing information. no lock-ins, no fear of losing content, frequently gets cleaned up and cross referenced with version history (which I dont mind losing as I have dates in the text files themselves).

What I haven't figured out (yet) is a sustainable way to regularly go back to the content I've collected to keep them rolling through my memory without it being an overwhelming amount of work.

Refreshing things regularly is the best, most effective way to find patterns and make better connections. Haven't broken that code yet.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

#79
post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I do most note-taking on paper. Problem with paper is that it's not searchable, as I discovered to my cost trying to find some specific reference details for a job I did last year and am repeating today. My problems are probably more due to ad hoc disorganisation - particularly, sometimes going off-piste and making critical notes on random sheets of paper, away from my main notebooks. I'd love some kind of e-paper so…

Most notes I don't need to look at ever again after they've served their purpose, be it a month or three minutes of use. For the ones that do, I will use my notes to write a digital writeup, usually with more detail and references throughout with the explicit intention of making it comprehensive for when I forget everything in 6 months. I find the process gives me all the benefit of paper and all the benefits of digital, but supercharged because I am recalling from a written note at the same time to synthesize these ideas into a new format.

Re: Show HN: Dendron – A Hierarchical Tool for Thought

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post #9

Hacker News loves their note taking apps. I've seen at least a dozen apps this year that have solved the exact same problem in just about the exact same ways. Am I the only one that still uses pen and paper? To me, there's a certain je ne sais quoi about closing my laptop and putting my phone away , grabbing a pen and my notebook, and brainstorming without technology.

I love pen and paper. My arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome, however, do not. I miss writing by hand.
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