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NASA’s Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

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Re: NASA’s Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually not all that surprising if you approach it from a different angle. Consider that light is nothing more than electromagnetic radiation; it is generated or absorbed only by changes in electromagnetic potential. Now also consider that electron orbitals in molecules are discrete and quantized: you can be in this orbital (with such-and-such potential energy) or in that orbital (with a slightly different pote…

How are they able to see the signature water gives off through all the noise that other types of molecules must be sending back? Isn't there even more noise to deal with when doing this over even bigger distances?

To answer your second question first:

Stuff being in the way will of course diminish the signal (by direct absorption or by scattering it). But space is pretty empty. The regular air on Earth contains ~10^19 particles per cm³, and it can take several km of air to start seriously interfering with light. A dense portion of space contains something like 10^4 particles per cm³, and a less dense region maybe 10^-4 particles per cm³. So, once you leave the atmosphere, the noise that's destroying the signal is simply far, far, far weaker than the signal.

Now for your first question. As I mentioned in my first comment, the spectral lines arise from different orbitals. What this means is that there isn't a single line associated with a molecule, but actually several lines. So if you think you see a line from one molecule, you should be able to find the other associated lines, and the more of the lines you can find, the stronger the evidence.

As a couple of people have noted, this isn't a perfect process, so you can get into arguments if your identification is actually correct or not.

Re: NASA’s Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

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Context: NASA keen to show SOFIA's worth https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00685-2

> The coronavirus pandemic is likely to keep it grounded for some time and threatens a planned deployment to New Zealand later this year.

How long can this modified 747SP fly? I wonder how they were going to fly it to New Zealand and if there were any refuel stops. Would be a nice treat to catch that at your local airport.

Re: NASA’s Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

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Wrong. Better: "NASA/DLRs Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon" Telescope and some of the instruments are powered by German engineering! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_Observatory_for_... Greetings from Germany ;-)

Ist es nicht der Fall, dass fast alle moderne sachen irgend einen ursprung in Deutsche technik haben?

Re: NASA’s Sofia Discovers Water on Sunlit Surface of Moon

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If comets are icy things, and are constantly crashing into the Earth and the Moon, why shouldn't we expect water on the moon?

Because the Moon doesn't have an atmosphere, so any water that gets slightly hot vaporizes and goes away into space. So, at least near the surface and on areas where the Sun light reaches, it's not obvious at all that we would find any water.

Shouldn't the moon's gravity keep it there?
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