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Power companies are regulated monopolies. There are no competitors. Twitter is in no way even close to the only way to publish something. It is no where near as difficult to publish on a different platform than it is to generate your own power. If an ISP was cutting off the NyPost, I would have issues with that. If they had their domain name seized, I would have an issue with that. If other ISPs blocked network route…
>Power companies are regulated monopolies. There are no competitors. The funny (sad) thing is that these utilities are almost easier to work around Twitter in this case. Power company cuts you off? Buy a generator, no big deal. Town turns off your water. IBC totes are cheap. Comcast terminates your account? Verizon is happy to pay you money and if they aren't where you are then you can suck it up and by satellite. If…
Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. Interesting... after reading this, I immediately thought: same as Zero Hedge (also often criticised). But then again, that shouldn't be a surprise - b…
Yikes - I've found Zerohedge to be scarily accurate over time! Depends on your political allegiances I suppose but my mother taught me when i was kid to always read the financial press - 'follow the money to find out what the b@stards are thinking' was her old line. (she used to work for the UK tory party in the '50's, despised them). ZH is what many city of London and wall street minions read live on their bloomberg…
Can you say more about how this violates 230? That wasn’t my understanding of how the law works, but I could be wrong.
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#133The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
I mean, CNN and WaPo have admitted to lying about Nick Sandmann, but their accounts are still there. Clearly, Twitter is not interested in whether news outlets sometimes publish fake news.
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#134Well the fact is the NY Times story is probably accurate and the NY Post story is extremely suspect. Twitter made a journalistic decision not to spread trash, possibly from Russia, that could have a real impact on our election result. Tough call, but the right call. If twitter sees itself as having some sort of moderator role than it has to make these judgement calls. Other outlets didn't amplify the Hunter Biden lap…
It would maybe be more understandable if the Director of National Intelligence hadn't made the statement he did [1], which was only a few days after the incident. Why wouldn't Twitter unlock their account then? So unless there is a huge conspiracy that you have evidence of where the DNI is straight up lying to everyone, I think it's fair to say that it's not misinformation from foreign parties. [1] "Director of Natio…
Read the wikipedia article on Ratcliffe and see if he is such a great source for your rebuttal.
But even if this is not Russia material, the NY Post story is very suspect. Even the WSJ wouldn't touch it.
Social media is a very toxic force in our society. I applaud Twitter for taking these very modest steps to correct the flow of propaganda. I'm sure Hannity and Fox are shocked that Twitter actually has a spine. They weren't expecting that.
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#135The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
After the Covington stuff, isn't it a good thing they are taking more time to figure out the context around short inflammatory videos?
No. Unless they want to be sued, like with the Covington kid...
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#136The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
> The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. Interesting... after reading this, I immediately thought: same as Zero Hedge (also often criticised). But then again, that shouldn't be a surprise - b…
>I personally find lower time-to-publish immensely valuable
I am curious why this is so valuable to you. In my personal life a delay of hours in the news cycle would have no effect. How does it generate value for you?
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven Implying that every other major MSM organization doesn't do the same exact garbage and aren't deserving of the same treatment. Edit: the point is that rules should not favor one MSM corporation over the other. It should be neutral.
The New York Times once allowed itself to be used as a mouthpiece for Stalin, publishing Walter Duranty's denials of famine in Ukraine. They didn't come clean on this until 1990: https://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/24/opinion/the-editorial-not... More recently, they allowed themselves to be used as the uncritical mouthpiece of the American federal government when they were starting an illegal war predicated on lies: http…
Being reputable and being perfectly accurate all the time are different things. Listing a handful of cases where a reputable source was not accurate does not prove the source is not reputable. It's like trying to prove science is a sham by talking about phlogiston.
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#138If you insist on spreading hateful, proven-false conspiracy theories about a major-party presidential candidate, do not be surprised when reputable firms will not be complicit in such spread.
It's a bit of a catch-22 for twitter. If the material is fake and proven to be false, then I don't think it can meet their definition of "hacked" content (unless some fake stuff is mixed in with real hacked data to make it appear more authentic). Even if it's real, it's a bit debatable whether or not it meets their definition of hacked content, especially since the rule has been ignored in the past (I suppose for tweets that were deemed in the public interest?)
(More caveats- I'm assuming you're talking about Hunter Biden although he isnt a presidential candidate and AFAIK the post's article hasn't been proven false, although it's certainly worth being skeptical about. Especially given the sketchiness of the source)
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#139The Post still hasn't deleted the offending tweet. Those are the rules: on a first violation of posting someone's personal information without permission you get your account locked until you delete the tweet.
How do they delete the tweet if they're locked out of the account?
There's a separate flow where they've sent the NYPost an email detailing why their account has been suspended with a link to the Tweet in question and a link saying "Delete this Tweet". As soon as they delete it, their account will be reinstated.
They've chosen not to delete for either "moral" reasons or "moral outrage" reasons, but the ball is in their court.
Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account
#140The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…
That is absolutely not why Twitter acted in this case, and everyone knows it.