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Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by gabereiser »

quacked wrote: post #6

The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…

Journalistic integrity means vetting sources of “news”, especially in this day in age when so many videos are just clips out of context. I completely agree with Twitter keeping NY Post account disabled. Until they can prove to be a real news source, they are tabloid fake news. The fact they they will publish articles other news sites won’t means not that they are “The Rogue News Organization in a sea of Liberal Media”, but more “They post bullshit that’s intended to incite culture war, not report the news”.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by [deleted] »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by Tokkemon »

Nacdor wrote: post #10
r00fus wrote: post #2

Twitter is a private corporation and perhaps its best if we all realize that FB/Twitter/Google are biased agencies. That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter.

> That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter. You believe it would be best if public discourse became even more of a one-sided echo chamber? Why is that?

Way to extrapolate an entire faction of society based on one action of a tabloid.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by tomp »

quacked wrote: post #6

The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…

> The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all.

Interesting... after reading this, I immediately thought: same as Zero Hedge (also often criticised). But then again, that shouldn't be a surprise - basically a lower bar (on accuracy) should result both in lower reaction time, and in more false positives.

A comment to a sibling comment: I personally find lower time-to-publish immensely valuable - I prefer to assess the accuracy of news stories myself (usually considering the original source and how aligned their interests are with the published information), and I find almost no value in the supposedly "trustworthy" media because they're not actually trustworthy to me (besides the obvious political bias, there's also plenty of high-profile non-culture-wars fake news, e.g. Iraqi WMD, Bloomberg's China spying debacle, the current (non-)coverage of Assange, ...). If there's anything I've learned in the past 10 or so years, is that the "experts" are barely any better than myself at discerning what's true or not, and much less trustworthy.

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Post by someguydave »

bleepblorp wrote: post #34
damagednoob wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Suddenly". You have to work really hard to make sure your timeline includes centre leaning views, never mind right leaning.

Unless Twitter has changed something recently, there are follow buttons on the account pages for @cnn, @cnni, @reuters, @ap, @bbcworld, @cbcnews, @dwnews, etc. Provided you're using chronological mode (which you should for many, many reasons), tweets from these sources will appear in your timeline. If you do not consider those news outlets adequately centerist, that may be an indication that your personal Overton win…

Those organizations all have a leftward slant. But thank you for informing me of your skew.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by dudul »

eli wrote: post #26

The Post still hasn't deleted the offending tweet. Those are the rules: on a first violation of posting someone's personal information without permission you get your account locked until you delete the tweet.

Is it what they finally settled on? because we've heard "we don't relay unverified news" and "we don't relay hacked information" as well.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by rwoodley »

Well the fact is the NY Times story is probably accurate and the NY Post story is extremely suspect.

Twitter made a journalistic decision not to spread trash, possibly from Russia, that could have a real impact on our election result. Tough call, but the right call. If twitter sees itself as having some sort of moderator role than it has to make these judgement calls.

Other outlets didn't amplify the Hunter Biden laptop story either. Even conservative outlets like the Wall Street Journal decided it was too sketchy to spread.

Twitter is trying to avoid being a platform for conspiracy theories and foreign intelligence agencies. It has to act.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by vvillena »

bmarquez wrote: post #15

Twitter's lack of transparency is depressing. If they're going to lock the NY Post account, they should put a notification on the page (and perhaps a reason why). Right now if you go to the NY Post Twitter it just looks like they voluntarily decided to stop tweeting, which is misinformation.

As a counterpoint, Twitter as a company isn't forced to do any such thing, so if they think it can hurt its userbase and its revenue, it won't be done.

Social media tries to establish a unique public forum, that gets policed by a single company. It's an unsustainable, doomed model. There's a reason the Internet as a whole is serviced by miriads of companies that are more or less forced to cooperate.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

A better analogy: Twitter is like Fedex refusing to deliver your packages based on your politics, not the electrical utility company.
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