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Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Twitter is a private corporation and perhaps its best if we all realize that FB/Twitter/Google are biased agencies. That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter.

And suddenly twitter is a leftist corporation. Frankly I don't know whats the better way for twitter, its one of those doomed if you do, doomed if not.

> suddenly twitter is a leftist corporation.

I mean, if you can't see that the social policy of the most leftmost activists and the social policy of the FAANG HR departments have a near-perfect alignment, I don't know what to tell you.

There's a big difference between this and their views on financial policies, but they've learned they can assuage the angry crowd by kowtowing to social issues while continuing to play the job of the robber baron. To successfully ride on top of this unstable equilibrium, it is necessary to (1) establish false dichotomies, a la the Arthur Finklestein school of electoral politics, and (2) to crush dissent that tries to pick apart the false dichotomy by controlling speech and silencing anything that is actually dissident against any concrete part of the narrative that is really open to attack.

Not that I think this Hunter Biden stuff is particularly noteworthy; if anything it's just more fuel for the false dichotomy, and a banning like this one for the NYP is perfect in terms of making it into a lightning-rod issue. Focus on this, people, and not any of the actual things happening in the world right now (like, say, the Middle East, or the flyover-state opioid crisis, or climate change, or inner city crime, or anything else that seemingly stops existing and has no interesting events when we don't pay attention to it, right?)

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Twitter is a private corporation and perhaps its best if we all realize that FB/Twitter/Google are biased agencies. That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter.

> That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter. You believe it would be best if public discourse became even more of a one-sided echo chamber? Why is that?

I'm not sure that "everyone except the NYPost" constitutes a single side. That said, it's Twitter's ball. They can play with it however they please.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And suddenly twitter is a leftist corporation. Frankly I don't know whats the better way for twitter, its one of those doomed if you do, doomed if not.

"Suddenly". You have to work really hard to make sure your timeline includes centre leaning views, never mind right leaning.

You really, really do not. It's plenty easy to follow DJT, Cernovich, PJW, baseballcrank, Andy Ngo, etc.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Twitter's lack of transparency is depressing. If they're going to lock the NY Post account, they should put a notification on the page (and perhaps a reason why).

Right now if you go to the NY Post Twitter it just looks like they voluntarily decided to stop tweeting, which is misinformation.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Here's the NY Post on Twitter's update to their own hacked materials rule, which suggests that NY Post is not in violation of Twitter's updated policies: https://nypost.com/2020/10/15/twitter-changes-hacked-materia...

As a reminder, there are numerous past instances where Twitter did not apply the same policies that were used to shut down NY Post: https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/15/11-hacks-leaks-and-hoax...

This selective application of policy is evidence of Twitter's bias, which I assume results from the bias of their leadership team and employee base. A company this big, which this much influence, cannot be trusted to operate the digital public square for an entire nation, let alone the world. It is a threat to speech, since the reach of these platforms is such that speech effectively doesn't exist if it isn't on these platforms. We need competing platforms badly, but it is hard to challenge the first-mover advantage of network effects of Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Perhaps we simply need to instead regulate them so that they do not deplatform/censor content that does not break the law.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Twitter is a private corporation and perhaps its best if we all realize that FB/Twitter/Google are biased agencies. That said, maybe it's best if NYPost stays off Twitter.

I don't understand how people want to ignore that being pro-"free speech" means private sector corporations can choose which speech they want to associate with too just like an individual can.

You have the right to say whatever you want, everyone else has the right to not allow it on their property.

There is no first amendment right to compelled listening. We aren't remotely close to having that. There isn't even a strong argument having been made for that, there is nothing slithering through the courts that would change that.

This is what happens every time people "cancel" someone, everyone agrees not to listen to them.

The separate standard for platforms is that people are just observing that they can't cancel the platform, easily. Just because they too will lose their own sounding board, which is ironically still being tolerated by said platform. But that is their only option.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want:

Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power?

NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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I mean, isn't it good when they uniformly apply policies against sharing illicitly obtained private content?

So why wasn't the NYT punished for publishing info from Trump's tax returns? The laptop story could at least be true. There is no way for the NYT to receive Trump's tax returns without someone committing a crime.
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