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Neil Postman wrote in 1985: “What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism." "Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley fe…
I can't recommend the book Amusing Ourselves to Death enough, especially in our current hyper-stupid times.
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This is a cult like approach. The main proposition "Everyone is a racist, whether you know it or not", is an overstatement. There is no way you can tell "everyone" is a "racist", is just an aphorism with multiple interpretations. This has become the tool of identity politics and group thinking, throw and aphorism and let people fight over it. Unfortunate.
Hm. Humans are built to identify with a group, absorb culture, and be uncertain and uneasy when not in their group or their culture. That can easily lead to treating different people differently, and to the conclusion. It's not completely true though. We usually reserve the term for active, conscious acts. Not just unconscious bias. So maybe we need a new word for that?
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#313This is why it's impossible to have a nuance discussion online. The vast majority of people who heavily use social media, are much more likely to have much stronger beliefs one way or another than people who don't. I even have a theory much of this is driven by social isolation, mostly young men with nothing better to do. So these young men go on tirades about how the Last of Us Two is a feminist plot to destroy masc…
I'd wager that boredom and, more importantly, lack of purpose fuels most of the hate and insanity we see today on the internet. This impacts all genders equally and our society is going need to think real hard how we go about tackling a growing number of young people struggling with existential angst.
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He signed the document to stay at the institution. I wouldn't call it "dodging a bullet" I'd call it "securing his own yoke".
God forbid large firms employing people from diverse backgrounds require employees to take training on how to work with people from diverse backgrounds.
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I’m not saying talk Radio and Fox News aren’t part of the problem, but blaming that alone for the polarization is short-sighted. A huge part of our polarization is due to our Supreme Court resolving social disputes before society has reached a consensus. Folks in Europe often don’t appreciate how different American constitutional law is on social issues compared to European norms: The UK makes teaching religion manda…
The US replaces state religion with a religion of the state; the weird mandatory recitation of the pledge of allegiance. Nothing like that in British schools. As Arethuza points out, state religious education and the official Church of England are only in England . Scotland has various forms of protestant nonconformist and Northern Ireland had a religous civil war whose bombs were detonating until 2001. The US's lean…
The situation with slavery and segregation in the United States is unique (and unique legal mechanisms were created to combat the issues). But it's not clear to me that you can generalize from that to other social issues. On homosexuality, for example, the U.S. is between Western Europe and Eastern Europe, and similar to Italy in terms of acceptance. Absent the Supreme Court, many U.S. states would have same-sex marriage in similar time-frames to EU countries. As to abortion, public opinion mirrors the actual laws in countries like France and Germany: support for making it legal up to 12 weeks, subject to things like waiting periods, with strong support for making it legal after that with only limited exceptions.
Sure, some U.S. states would be stragglers, but the same is true in the EU. Ireland didn't legalize abortion until just a couple of years ago. Switzerland and Poland still don't have same-sex marriage. How would the EU react to the European Court of Human Rights taking these decisions away from the state legislatures? Maybe that's what should happen, but this thread is about polarization. It would be polarizing as hell.
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> In that sense we're all 'racist' to some degree and its important to acknowledge that so as to overcome it. No. I reject this. No matter how many times you or others tell me that I’m racist and can’t help it, and if I just pray... I mean take enough sanctioned training courses it’ll go away I will not partake. Period. Nobody is racist until proven otherwise, or racist until they’ve taken enough unconscious bias tra…
>No. I reject this. No matter how many times you or others tell me that I’m racist and can’t help it, and if I just pray... I mean take enough sanctioned training courses it’ll go away I will not partake. Period. Nobody is racist until proven otherwise, or racist until they’ve taken enough unconscious bias training courses. That’s something you and others are making up to deal with your own insecurities and racism. B…
Everyone is a sinner (not the Pope, tho). Yes, that includes you! Go confess and do your penance
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> I had to "confess" that I'm racist and promise to do better or it would have consequences for my career. So, basically inquisitor wannabees and pseudoscience cultists. Your colleague dodged a bullet. The idea that claiming that you are racist makes you not racist is totally gaga, random, and based in magical thinking, not in science. It only helps to hide in plain sight the real racists making much easier to admit…
The trainings I'm familiar with have the opposite intent: to help people who don't believe they are racists (or believe racism doesn't exist) understand the unconscious mental processes that feed into racism and the nature of structural discrimination, even when unintended.
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#318When I was younger, this was a quote that was always thrown around: “Never doubt that a small, group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” — Margaret Mead Is this really true though or does change occur in ways that are a lot smaller, more incremental and undetectable than we realize?
The US 'Founding Fathers' were a relatively small group of merchants, land owners, an publishers that were, if you will, "thought leaders" of an American "englightenment" movement that saw significant opportunities if they could toss the foreign rule of Great Britain. But "Let's break loose from the monarchy" was hardly a common public opinion before a combination of a series of writings made by an absolute handful of individuals in the group and a series of publicized bad tactical / strategic calls made by the representatives of the British government in the Colonies.
(It may be difficult to tease apart cause and effect on this topic, however; consider the possibility that there are fringe thinkers pulling in all directions, but as circumstances change, an accident of incidents may bring some of the fringe thinkers to a position of being less fringe. People were saying police in the US were too brutal to minorities for decades before combination of ubiquitous smartphone cameras and multiple disconnected high-profile incidents that common folk considered brutality started to bring public perception around to that way of thinking. We're in the middle of a cultural fight right now, but if policing as it's done in the US does fundamentally change, history will probably record a story of Black Lives Matter leaders bringing about that change. And if it doesn't change, this era of US history will probably hold a place in history books similar to the one the LA riots hold).
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I had the impression, that the center is exactly the problem because it's always looking away. Hook-theory, etc.
You mean "fish hook theory", the idea that centrism is somehow inherently ideologically aligned with the far right? AFAIK that's simply a fantasy promoted in certain corners of the internet (like the ironically-named r/EnlightenedCentrism). It's not supported by any actual quantitative evidence at all, nor am I aware of any credence given to it in academia. It's essentially made-up. There is no political scientist I'…
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I had the impression, that the center is exactly the problem because it's always looking away. Hook-theory, etc.
You mean "fish hook theory", the idea that centrism is somehow inherently ideologically aligned with the far right? AFAIK that's simply a fantasy promoted in certain corners of the internet (like the ironically-named r/EnlightenedCentrism). It's not supported by any actual quantitative evidence at all, nor am I aware of any credence given to it in academia. It's essentially made-up. There is no political scientist I'…
The center is pro police, which is known to the other way for right terrorism.