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Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#191
While were on the subject I'm tired of these BS laptop keyboards. Stop trying to cram a numeric keyboard on there and shifting all the keys and trackpad to the left. It's great for the 1% of the time I need a full size numeric keyboard but sucks for the 99% of the time I don't.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#192
post #32

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You can of course leave secure boot disabled in UEFI, but you can’t run secure boot with BIO, to my knowledge. That’s why the association - if you want SB, use UEFI.

> if you want SB, use UEFI Not sure I've ever seen anyone wanting secure boot. what is it actually good for aside from generating searches for Google when you have to figure out how to circumvent it?

I prefer to use Secure Boot when it makes sense. It completely shuts down lots of incredibly hard to detect forms of malware. Its nice knowing the boot environment is exactly as I intended and hasn't changed.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#193
Pretty much anyone who works for more than 1hr a day at home and doesn't do so on a big beautiful desktop has been making a mistake. (Presuming no limitations like affordability, literally can't fit a desk in their bedsit, etc.)

Anyone who consciously thought desktops were a good idea to move away from in the above case made an initial, much bigger mistake. (Again presuming it was a general lifestyle choice and not some necessity.)

It's as simple as answering the following question:

Would you rather have a) a tiny monitor with a bunch of expensive fragile dying-to-have-coffee-spilled-on-it shit jutting way out at you in the horizontal, always at a weird angle or too low or b) a couple of big beautiful monitors and loads of desk space? If you think you can have both, you're probably wrong. Even a nice dock setup requires you to do things like install brackets under the desk to shove your laptop in to, and disable its monitor lest it become a weird bastard screen full of junk you have no intention of looking at.

All the docks and laptop stands and extra monitors in the world can't solve the problem that laptops are broadly speaking, unpleasant to use. I think the only times I've actually been grateful to have my expensive and pretty laptop, are during power outs - watching netflix in bed. Though the whole setup is reliant on a well practiced construction of pillows and an external bluetooth speaker because no laptop has ever been made with speakers worth the power they draw.

If you can even remotely get away with not using one, don't use one.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

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post #182

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Yeah, hemming and hawing over whether or not an x86/64 PC can disable Secure Boot in 2020 is a bit silly when it's been a certification requirement by Microsoft for ages

As someone who knows little to nothing about UEFI except what I read on these types of blogs and comments, what do you mean that secure boot is no longer an issue? and that it's been a certificate requirement by microsoft?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/informatio...

>All x86-based Certified For Windows 10 PCs must meet several requirements related to Secure Boot:

> - They must have Secure Boot enabled by default.

> - They must trust Microsoft’s certificate (and thus any bootloader Microsoft has signed).

> - They must allow the user to configure Secure Boot to trust other bootloaders.

> - They must allow the user to completely disable Secure Boot.

The last two points in particular. It's been this way since SB was introduced.

Note that this requirement does not apply to non-x86 devices. In particular, ARM devices (Windows RT) are explicitly required to disallow SB from being disabled, to meet the certification requirement.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#196

Just buy an Intel Nuc i7 or an AMD Ryzen mini-pc. A 1TB m2 slot SSD and 32GB ram. Perfect for programming. You can fit it in your pocket if you need to move it around. Big screens, keyboards and mice should stay at the desks where you work.

You must have a big pocket if you can fit a 4.6” x 4.4” x 1.55” box in there.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#197
post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, hemming and hawing over whether or not an x86/64 PC can disable Secure Boot in 2020 is a bit silly when it's been a certification requirement by Microsoft for ages

As someone who knows little to nothing about UEFI except what I read on these types of blogs and comments, what do you mean that secure boot is no longer an issue? and that it's been a certificate requirement by microsoft?

Microsoft has always required (on x86, ARM is different) that for Windows logo certification Secure Boot must be able to be disabled, you must trust Microsoft’s CA and the third-party CA that they run (and that Red Hat/Ubuntu/Debian use to sign their builds) and that the user must be able to load their own keys. This means that any x86 device sold with UEFI Secure Boot can still boot Linux (or if it can’t, it’s not Secure Boot’s fault).

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/informatio...

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#198
I like mini-pcs (NUC) for dev work, they run linux without much drama, are nice and cheap, and crucially, are not intended to be carried everywhere and stay at the office. I enjoy being physically removed from my work machine. Covid has altered this relationship in a way I'm not sure I like.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#199
post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who knows little to nothing about UEFI except what I read on these types of blogs and comments, what do you mean that secure boot is no longer an issue? and that it's been a certificate requirement by microsoft?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/informatio... >All x86-based Certified For Windows 10 PCs must meet several requirements related to Secure Boot: > - They must have Secure Boot enabled by default. > - They must trust Microsoft’s certificate (and thus any bootloader Microsoft has signed). > - They must allow the user to configure Secure Boot to trust other bootloaders. > - They must allow the user to…

"They must trust Microsoft’s certificate (and thus any bootloader Microsoft has signed)."

This one in particular always pissed me off, and I'm glad it only applies to pre-built machines that come with Windows 10 preinstalled. If the individual motherboard makers ever decide they need to be "certified for Windows 10" and start auto-trusting a certificate for closed-source commercial software, I'm left with no choice but to either stick with my "old" (not really that old) hardware or switch to another platform like POWER9.

Re: I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers

#200

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12. High end desktop CPUs are noticeably faster than mobile counterparts (higher freq, more cache)

Is that actually true anymore? I mean, hardware wise they are not much faster, but cooling is a different story.

Yes. You only need to look at the power draw of mid to high end desktop CPUs to realize that’s not feasible to power or cool on a laptop.
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