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The 60's are long gone and PC was an accident of IBM's incompetency to keep it vertically integrated as other home micro platforms. Something that Android, tablet and laptop OEMs are in the process of fixing. Keep hating Apple if it makes you happy.
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Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
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Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
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If Epic fought against console stores, people would say they are completely fine with Apple's store.
Epic is just playing stupid games for their bottom line and then there are all these hippies, the same ones that believed in junk like Google's "Do no evil", routing for Epic, without realising that they just want their Epic store, with their own exclusives. It is going to be such a major fail, thankfully some lawyers will be happy.
Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
#33There's a reality that Epic doesn't have to like, no matter how bizarre. Apple is not the only gatekeeper of an App Store for iOS. Apple is the gatekeeper of the only certified App Store on iOS, that allows users to run on their fully warrantied device. Users can always choose to try to jailbreak and install Cydia, and Epic could release their games there.
I've been wondering for a while why they haven't done this yet. It would probably make millions of users jailbreak their iPhones. It would be a big f u from epic to apple.
Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
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Epic is just playing stupid games for their bottom line and then there are all these hippies, the same ones that believed in junk like Google's "Do no evil", routing for Epic, without realising that they just want their Epic store, with their own exclusives. It is going to be such a major fail, thankfully some lawyers will be happy.
Having additional app stores would be a win for everybody except Apple. Whatever Epic's intentions may be, if they succeed we all win against the massive mobile duopoly.
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Credit card companies charge ~ 3% to manage a far more complex and fraud-prone ecosystem. It's Apple's sandpit and they make the rules, but I think it's hard to rationally justify their take other than "because they can".
I guess the 80% previously charged by mobile operators specific stores was much better then, how quickly people forget about how things were.
Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
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> Epic has no right to run anything on iOS except by Apple's permission. Epic should have every right to distribute apps and users every right to download them (outside the app store at no cost to Apple) . Unfortunately in our dystopian reality a couple of corporations get to decide who can run what.
They signed a contract willingly, no one forced them to. Also they are completely fine with the console stores.
When there is a mono/duopoly there is no choice if you want to live or do business. You are forced to accept their conditions.
I do not agree with banks, Google, Linkdln, FB, etc. yet I have been forced to sign their user agreement to have a job, to be able to buy food, etc. In no way I consent to their terms but I have been forced.
Consoles situation is bad too but you can live without a console, you can't live without a phone.
The usage of phones is not comparable with consoles. We do everything on phone/tablets/laptop and almost nothing on consoles.
That's why addressing Google / Apple Store monopolies are a priority compared to marginal things in our lives like consoles
Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Epic fought against console stores, people would say they are completely fine with Apple's store.
Epic is just playing stupid games for their bottom line and then there are all these hippies, the same ones that believed in junk like Google's "Do no evil", routing for Epic, without realising that they just want their Epic store, with their own exclusives. It is going to be such a major fail, thankfully some lawyers will be happy.
Apple is abusing its position, Epic wants to allow alternative stores and more competition from anybody, not just them.
This is a fight against an abuse of position, this will benefit everyone, not just epic.
How the hell is that okay to take money from inside a service.
Did Chrome asked 30% on all Ebay sells because users where using Chrome as the "platform" to access EBay ?
How can we even support Apple on that one ?
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I guess the 80% previously charged by mobile operators specific stores was much better then, how quickly people forget about how things were.
You said this on another comment, it's disingenuous to say that just because it was bad before that it's not bad now. Apple really shouldn't charge 30 percent for doing basically nothing except gate keeping.
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They signed a contract willingly, no one forced them to. Also they are completely fine with the console stores.
They signed but not willingly. This notion of "you signed = you consent" is ridiculous when you are in practice forced to sign. When there is a mono/duopoly there is no choice if you want to live or do business. You are forced to accept their conditions. I do not agree with banks, Google, Linkdln, FB, etc. yet I have been forced to sign their user agreement to have a job, to be able to buy food, etc. In no way I cons…
Re: Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing
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Epic is just playing stupid games for their bottom line and then there are all these hippies, the same ones that believed in junk like Google's "Do no evil", routing for Epic, without realising that they just want their Epic store, with their own exclusives. It is going to be such a major fail, thankfully some lawyers will be happy.
Why you think people who want Epic to win are actually Epic fanboys ? This is not about Epic, this is about Apple. I couldn't care less about Epic. Apple is abusing its position, Epic wants to allow alternative stores and more competition from anybody , not just them. This is a fight against an abuse of position, this will benefit everyone, not just epic. How the hell is that okay to take money from inside a service.…
I only use Apple devices at the office.
Yeah, really there is such a huge benefit in alternative Android stores, they are blooming everywhere.