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Washington crews destroy first U.S. “murder hornet” nest

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It makes me a little nauseous to think about all the resources going to tracking down these insects, but this is truly an area where an ounce of prevention is worth many pounds of cure. The scope of North America's invasive species problem is enormous. For many folks in urban areas, it's possible that you might go your whole day only encountering one native bird species (American Crow), but a whole host of invasive s…

I’mfrom Alberta. My favorite party trick when talking to non-native Albertans is to pull up the “world rat population” map: https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/657947826782505650/ I have no idea how accurate it is, of course.

Yeah I don’t think this map is accurate. This maps states that rats don’t inhabit Iceland, but I’ve personally seen them in Reykjavík.

Re: Washington crews destroy first U.S. “murder hornet” nest

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It makes me a little nauseous to think about all the resources going to tracking down these insects, but this is truly an area where an ounce of prevention is worth many pounds of cure. The scope of North America's invasive species problem is enormous. For many folks in urban areas, it's possible that you might go your whole day only encountering one native bird species (American Crow), but a whole host of invasive s…

Is there any evidence of such attempts to neuter Mother Nature actually working? Unless, global trade ceases, can this effort be maintained and successful over the long haul? I'm not suggesting it's bad or wrong to try, only whether there's evidence that the odds favor doing so.

A quick web search may answer your question

https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=invasive%20species%20erad...

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"Washington State Department of Agriculture workers, illuminated by red lamps, vacuum a nest of Asian giant hornets from a tree in Blaine" Interesting. Why do they use red lamps?

Red light is typically used at night in order to avoid destroying the eye's rhodopsin, which helps with night vision and takes at least 30 minutes of non-exposure to blue light to fully replenish. You'll see pilots and astronomers using red flashlights for this reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodopsin

Re: Washington crews destroy first U.S. “murder hornet” nest

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I know bees are fundamental but I think we should adjust ourselves along with nature, and not try to always dictate things. We can live without honey, eat fruits instead (for which wasps and hornets participate also in pollination), they even provide better nutrients

> I know bees are fundamental but I think we should adjust ourselves along with nature, and not try to always dictate things.

Nature? You realize this almost certainly happened because of international travel/trade, right?

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Had we all been wearing surgical masks in public since the 90s, probably well over a million lives would have been saved by now from flu deaths alone. Basically, since the 90s we've put a much much higher value on human life. I expect mask usage to extend far beyond covid and handshaking to cease being a cultural greeting.

Why do you think that? COVID-19 has become more infectious over the course of the pandemic, with a strain that results in higher viral loads becoming predominant: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32697968/ It's hard to compare across countries. But mask-wearing Japan and South Korea have higher rates of flu and pneumonia deaths than the US/Canada/Europe: https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/influenza...…

> It's hard to compare across countries. But mask-wearing Japan and South Korea have higher rates of flu and pneumonia deaths than the US/Canada/Europe

Possibly confounded by disparate population densities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...

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1994: We'll need airtight space suits for an Ebola outbreak. 2020: Surgical masks are a bit much to expect people to wear during a pandemic, Ebola has been circulating in Congo since 2014, and we'll need airtight space suits for a murder hornet outbreak. Truly, the 90s were a simpler time.

These suits do not seen airtight at all, quite the opposite in fact. I think they are just sting-proof suits.

Point. They have taped seams, but breathable fabric would make more sense.

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> No fancy beekeeper suit necessary Does that perhaps depend on the species of wasp, or maybe the reach of the wand? IIRC, there was one youtube video where the little bastards went straight for the dude's face during shop-vac'ing. He could smell the venom they were trying to spray in his eyes. When one of the wasps (or hornets?) went straight for his GoPro sensor, its face filled my large monitor and I nearly had a…

Please share the link to that video if you can somehow recall it! Sounds better than most of the junk I've been watching on Netflix lately.

There are a number of people on youtube with these sorts of videos. Hornet King is a favorite channel of mine to watch that also has good information.

Re: Washington crews destroy first U.S. “murder hornet” nest

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I know bees are fundamental but I think we should adjust ourselves along with nature, and not try to always dictate things. We can live without honey, eat fruits instead (for which wasps and hornets participate also in pollination), they even provide better nutrients

> I know bees are fundamental but I think we should adjust ourselves along with nature, and not try to always dictate things. Nature? You realize this almost certainly happened because of international travel/trade, right?

> "this happened"

You mean hornets? Of course I know, but we can still adapt our consumption mode, honeybees are for what? honey mostly. We can also reduce planes travel, that wouldn't hurt as well

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think that? COVID-19 has become more infectious over the course of the pandemic, with a strain that results in higher viral loads becoming predominant: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32697968/ It's hard to compare across countries. But mask-wearing Japan and South Korea have higher rates of flu and pneumonia deaths than the US/Canada/Europe: https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/influenza...…

> It's hard to compare across countries. But mask-wearing Japan and South Korea have higher rates of flu and pneumonia deaths than the US/Canada/Europe Possibly confounded by disparate population densities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_depend...

Belgium, the Netherlands, and Israel are all slightly less dense than South Korea, and more dense than Japan. Yet all three have significantly lower flu/pneumonia death rates than either South Korea or Japan.

Bangladesh also has a slightly lower flu/pneumonia death rate than Japan, even though it has 3x the density (though Bangladesh has a somewhat lower life expectancy (72) than Japan (84); Belgium, Netherlands, and Israel are all fairly close (80+) to Japan).

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