Books in .txt format for AI training purposes
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#3Always impressive how the AI community, both inside large companies and not, seems to assume data just exists for them to use, copyright or personal rights be damned.
Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets?
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#5Always impressive how the AI community, both inside large companies and not, seems to assume data just exists for them to use, copyright or personal rights be damned.
> Always impressive how the AI community, both inside large companies and not, seems to assume data just exists for them to use, copyright or personal rights be damned. Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets?
The GP is objecting to the casualness with which privacy rights and intellectual property rights are ignored by so many in the AI community, not to a choice of whether they object to one or another specific manifestation of how the community is doing so.
[edit added]: Those who would argue "no, there is no casual ignoring of rights", consider for example the official DMCA takedown instructions for the collection [0].
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Always impressive how the AI community, both inside large companies and not, seems to assume data just exists for them to use, copyright or personal rights be damned. Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets?
> Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets? The GP is objecting to the casualness with which privacy rights and intellectual property rights are ignored by so many in the AI community, not to a choice of whether they object to one or another specific manifestation of how the community is doing so. [edit added]: Those who would argue "no, there is no casual ignoring…
Or is the trained model a derived work of those books?
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#7However, saying: "Suppose you wanted to train a world-class GPT model, just like OpenAI. How? You have no data. Now you do. Now everyone does"
Is quite a stretch. You need much, much more that 36GB of quality data to train a world-class GPT model.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets? The GP is objecting to the casualness with which privacy rights and intellectual property rights are ignored by so many in the AI community, not to a choice of whether they object to one or another specific manifestation of how the community is doing so. [edit added]: Those who would argue "no, there is no casual ignoring…
The question is..if a AI reads a book is it against copyright? Or is the trained model a derived work of those books?
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Always impressive how the AI community, both inside large companies and not, seems to assume data just exists for them to use, copyright or personal rights be damned. Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets?
> Are you objecting to the use of data for training, or to the compilation of training datasets? The GP is objecting to the casualness with which privacy rights and intellectual property rights are ignored by so many in the AI community, not to a choice of whether they object to one or another specific manifestation of how the community is doing so. [edit added]: Those who would argue "no, there is no casual ignoring…