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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by lemagedurage »

aesyondu wrote: post #80
ab_testing wrote: post #73

I think the long term solution for this problem is the developers of open source software like the bit torrent client, youtube-dl and other similar software will have to host their code outside of the reach of DMCA regualation. That will usually mean something like Github like site hosted in Russia, China or some other bloc where DMCA does not apply. Right now, lots of users in the US scientific community use Scihub…

> I think the long term solution for this problem is the developers of open source software like the bit torrent client, youtube-dl and other similar software will have to host their code outside of the reach of DMCA regualation I'm not sure about that. I think the real long term solution is to have a decentralized version of YouTube/video publishing platform that is resistant (invulnerable?) to censorship. I'm not s…

Zeronet [0] has implemented a decentralized website model, a Github alternative on there could be more resilient, though it does require additional client software to run. I believe the site owner can update their decentralized website with their cryptographic keys.

Perhaps WebTorrent [1] can be the basis for an in-browser implementation, along with service workers to stay cached and self-update without requiring a running host. Talk about serverless :^)

[0] https://zeronet.io/ [1] https://webtorrent.io/

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#102

Post by justinclift »

ab_testing wrote: post #73

I think the long term solution for this problem is the developers of open source software like the bit torrent client, youtube-dl and other similar software will have to host their code outside of the reach of DMCA regualation. That will usually mean something like Github like site hosted in Russia, China or some other bloc where DMCA does not apply. Right now, lots of users in the US scientific community use Scihub…

> outside of the reach of DMCA regualation.

What's the latency to the Moon again? :)

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#103

Post by chii »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
jcranmer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't. If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then t…

RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft, and make every developer who already hates their guts to pick up the pitchforks and march. They won't try doing it.

> RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft

microsoft isn't gonna fight the good fight. There's no reward (to them) for doing so, and there's only a cost. It'd be a stupid business decision.

What is more correct is to lobby legislation changes to copyright. Repeal the DMCA, or change copyright law to such that you cannot abuse it this way. And this lobbying is the civil responsibility of everyone, not just microsoft.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#104

Post by chii »

orbitingpluto wrote: post #40
freeone3000 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, issuing a DMCA claim does not invalidate former claims. The system always works the way a rational human would expect.

"The system always works the way a rational human would expect." We all wish, we all wish.

It works the way the law is designed to be interpreted and written. Unfortunately, it's written with the purpose of helping the RIAA enforce their will against the people's will.

So the only way to fight back is to do your civic duty - lobby against it, and/or lobby for a more modern set of copyright laws (and repeal the DMCA). But unfortunately, people don't care enough to force their representatives.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#105

Post by segfaultbuserr »

airstrike wrote: post #62
kamyarg wrote: post #23

Cloned locally, was sad when the original repo was taken down. Some things actually get worst when you try to prevent people from doing them, hopefully some people realize this. Can someone remind me which music videos they did not want people to download please?

09 F9...

Fun fact: AACS keys are still actively being leaked to this day, e.g.

    0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 ; v1
    0x455FE10422CA29C4933F95052B792AB2 ; v3
    0xF190A1E8178D80643494394F8031D9C8 ; v4
    ; omit 60+ keys
    0x7A4F40D8696B7B159BE8176CC9EDB85C ; v66-68

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#106

Post by kibibyte »

jaquers wrote: post #69

git clone https://github.com/github/dmca.git . git fetch origin 416da574ec git branch youtube-dl 416da574ec git checkout -f youtube-dl

Didn't work for me with the shorter commit hash, but it worked with the full hash 416da574ec0df3388f652e44f7fe71b1e3a4701f.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#107

Post by fabianhjr »

djeiasbsbo wrote: post #89
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's pretty much it though. In all honesty, we need a GH alternative hosted outside the US, in any place where absurd laws like DMCA don't exist.

What we really need is a decentralised git forge using something like ActivityPub. We cannot keep relying on companies to host open content for us.

ActivityPub is federated like git is distributed. You can add several remotes from different servers (or peers in case of single user instances hosted at home)

Even though other sites like GitLab exist that GitHub remains a near-monopoly default doesn't bode well for attempting to migrate to a completely decentralized system as default. There are decentralized extensions of git (like git-ssb).

Addenda: Git is also not well suited for a lot of decentralization due to how branches are modeled. Patch-theory based systems like darcs and pijul would need more adoption before code repositories could be decentralized.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#108

Post by Reelin »

jcranmer wrote: post #57
shmerl wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not good then. There were some concerns before that the project wasn't active anymore, so I hope it's not a sign of maintainers deciding to pull the plug.

The claim was filed on Friday. It's been less than 48 hours, almost none of it during business hours. Filing a counterclaim is literally saying "see you in court," and given both that RIAA is known for being litigious and that youtube-dl's defense here is (to my reading of the law) merely decent and not slam-dunk, I would not want to take that step without seeking the advice of a lawyer first. So even if a countercla…

I'd also note that if anyone feels like duking it out with the RIAA for some reason (Why? Is your goal to spend as much money as possible or something?) you can always create your own youtube-dl equivalent and wait for a takedown notice of your own.

Now presumably GitHub won't let you push forbidden changesets, but since hashes are chained all you have to do is modify a single byte of the root and replay everything. (I have no idea if GitHub would ban you for a ToS violation or if they would just wait for the next DMCA takedown notice to show up.)

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#109

Post by Meph504 »

nimbius wrote: post #50
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

>I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. You're not wrong. Sure, the cloudflare browser checks and antibot pages on gitlab are aggravating, but there are a litany of documented reasons people are walking away from Microsofts latest acquisition. maybe the biggest one is the ICE contract they ardently refused to back out of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#Controversies Its also pretty obvious MS doesnt…

Well I've been guessing that github was going to get killed off and rolled into of azure devops at some point.

As for the ICE contract, do you have any idea how much money the U.S. government pays to microsoft, of course they aren't going to back out of a contract. if they did, you can bet an emergency board meeting would be held, and who ever made that call would be axed and the contract reinstated, the JEDI cloud storage contract alone is worth $1 billion a year. not to mentions the 25+ million plus OS lisc. and office 365 contracts, and the GCC contracts.

It's very possible that microsoft as a corporation doesn't even deal with github DMCA until they become a PR issue like this one. Github processed DMCA noticed before they were acquired, and their staff likely still is. Not like that is a hot button issues to convert and integrate in the grand scheme of things.

Just food for thought.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#110

Post by d0mine »

jaquers wrote: post #69

git clone https://github.com/github/dmca.git . git fetch origin 416da574ec git branch youtube-dl 416da574ec git checkout -f youtube-dl

`git fetch origin` failed for me

  fatal: Couldn't find remote ref 416da574ec
`git fetch origin pull/8142/head` worked (the ref became available).
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