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Flattr - I want to give you my money

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Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#41
post #7

I don't completely think that this is an execution issue. Do we really think there is a large market out there for "flattr-ing" blogs and other sites? I don't know how many people would pay for/donate to something they're getting for free. Something about not buying a cow when you're getting milk for free comes to mind...

It's a donation system. Lots of people want to donate.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#43

Flattr is "failing" (failing as in, failing to gain substantial traction) because of lack of users. Notch (of Minecraft fame) used Flattr for a long time on his blog and he removed it because he made so very little off it, even though he has a very high traffic blog. They shot themselves in the foot when they launched the service: a "private beta". It was the most ridiculous idea ever , here is a service that NEEDS e…

Could reddit pull this off? Their "reddit this" buttons are already everywhere.

Hmm, that sounds like it might have some potential. I'm envisioning a setup where the first upvote is free, but you can get a second one by spending a quarter (or whatever amount of money) that gets shared with the site owner.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#44

TipTheWeb handles this chicken-egg problem: http://tiptheweb.org/ Tips identify content just by URL de-coupling content attribution from the authors claiming their tips. This also us to work for tipping content on YouTube, Flickr, and GitHub, etc. without requiring the site to be directly integrated with TipTheWeb.

Thanks for this. I tried Flattr but it seemed A) too barren and B) too Euro-centric for me. TTW seems like an awesome service, I've already made $4. =)

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#45
post #21

I will use Flattr when there are no service fees. After all, the developers/owners, who also just happen to run the pirate bay, feel that everything should be free and "shared, just like when we were children". Why do they need to charge 10% service fees if they want a "free" society?

It seems like they should just allow you to flattr flattr. They believe in their model, right?

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#46
post #9
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went back and forth with someone at flattr like 8 times saying this. At the end of the day that person just broke down and told me that it was a deeply political issue and the sides were divided on it. Sigh.

Oh and I should say that I was coming up with solutions left right and center for the "problems" associated with it. Each of the problems was more like a starting point to a great solution than a fundamental problem. (Eg. "what if 1m sites have less than 2 cents even after months?" "Auto lottery that shit" or "what if we can't contact the person?" "Same solution to someone signing up for flattr and getting hit by a b…

There might be legal issues with collecting money on another entity's behalf (while saying you're collecting it for them) without their consent. I'm not a lawyer and it's probably not a show-stopper, but it might involve more hoops to jump through.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#47

Flattr is "failing" (failing as in, failing to gain substantial traction) because of lack of users. Notch (of Minecraft fame) used Flattr for a long time on his blog and he removed it because he made so very little off it, even though he has a very high traffic blog. They shot themselves in the foot when they launched the service: a "private beta". It was the most ridiculous idea ever , here is a service that NEEDS e…

Could reddit pull this off? Their "reddit this" buttons are already everywhere.

Or Facebook. Their "Like" buttons are everything and I'm sure Facebook would love to collect money from users, not just advertisers.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#48
post #27
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear a lot of people saying that. Interesting, however, is that I, as European, don't even think twice about it[1]. My brain must be wired to look at the context primarily. Why that is, I can only take a stab at: I guess we see a lot more from you guys on the other side of the pond than you see from us. :) [1] Comma overload -- my English teacher would kill me.

I think the difference is that most Americans simply aren't exposed to various ways of writing dates, times, currencies, numbers, etc. on a regular basis. Even within Germany, there's no consensus about where to put the Euro sign (before or after). Americans don't write times like 20:00 and say "eight" aloud. After several years in Europe, I'm fairly adept at accepting all inputs.

Your comment inspired this thought: Imagine a Firefox extension or Greasemonkey script that localizes web pages: converts dates, times, currencies, separators to the user's preference. :)

Google Chrome will translate web page languages, which is a much more difficult problem.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#49
post #4

Flattr could create a bookmarklet to flattr any webpage. Then if enough people have done so for a given domain they can contact the owner saying "Hey, you have 5$ to collect at flattr, why not sign-up?". This is basically what paypal does, allowing you to send money to anyone with an e-mail address even if they're not yet registered.

exactly. or going another step... i'll set aside some $ amt to give each money, then I want to point flattr to my instapaper feed and have them figure out each site's split of my monthly largess.

I would not sign up as the service stands now because the whole thing requires too much daily thought from me.

Re: Flattr - I want to give you my money

#50
post #4

Flattr could create a bookmarklet to flattr any webpage. Then if enough people have done so for a given domain they can contact the owner saying "Hey, you have 5$ to collect at flattr, why not sign-up?". This is basically what paypal does, allowing you to send money to anyone with an e-mail address even if they're not yet registered.

Isn't that how the new Readability was supposed to operate?
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