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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by sieabahlpark »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
jcranmer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't. If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then t…

RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft, and make every developer who already hates their guts to pick up the pitchforks and march. They won't try doing it.

More like RIAA says to all their publishers "don't do business with Microsoft anymore"

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by mschuster91 »

Iv wrote: post #6
mmastrac wrote: post #4

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This is such a great hack. I approved the PR, naturally.

Note that a hack is not a fix. All of you, write to your representatives about that if you care. In EU when they were going to put some similar laws we all organized and wrote massively to the parliament and they backed down. It is a lot of effort but it works.

Fuck no, they didn't back down. Hundreds of thousands marched across Germany, in Munich where a friend of mine organized it was one of the largest rallies in recent histories - and all for vain, we got the upload filter crap regardless of all the promises.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by jjeaff »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
jcranmer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't. If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then t…

RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft, and make every developer who already hates their guts to pick up the pitchforks and march. They won't try doing it.

And as much as RIAA is mostly a slimey pit of lawyers, they would stand no chance again msft's goblin hoard of attorneys.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by RulerOf »

fireattack wrote: post #31
RulerOf wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of reasons it's possible, but the one that sticks out is that the repo owner needs to be able to modify the commit before the PR is merged. AFAIK, the way that's done is by incorporating the remote repo's commit history into the destination repo underneath a pr-specific branch, which naturally brings all of the commits themselves into the repo's git database.

Follow up question, are these commits or pr-specific branch accessible in target repo's `git` (not GitHub)?

Yes, but I don't know if you have to track the branch first or not in order to pull down the data into your local repo.

But this is exactly how merging a PR locally[0] works.

0: https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/colla...

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by DoctorNick »

gamblor956 wrote: post #15
Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

The end result will be GitHub taking down this repo and possibly blocking PRs. Congratulations on making life difficult for other people.

The people who are responsible for this SHOULD have their lives made as difficult as possible.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by mschuster91 »

judge2020 wrote: post #26
fireattack wrote: post #12

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Just curious, why is this possible with an unmerged PR? Just a weird setup on GitHub's end?

I think it's because GitHub wants to allow repo maintainers to merge in PRs without them having to add separate remotes themselves, ie `git remote add` isn't required to `git merge`. This basically means that any content can be injected into anyone's GH repo (since PRs can't be turned off), but really only in terms of being able to view it on the GitHub website. To give an example, pull 437 on torvalds/linux[0] hasn'…

yuck, yet another reason to get people to do commit signing - and enforce it by github not attributing unsigned commits.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by jjeaff »

gizmo686 wrote: post #33
Iv wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that a hack is not a fix. All of you, write to your representatives about that if you care. In EU when they were going to put some similar laws we all organized and wrote massively to the parliament and they backed down. It is a lot of effort but it works.

And what should we ask for? There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable. Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down. The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content. The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

You should ask for immunity for tools that could potentially be used to infringe copyright, but that are not actually infringing copyright.

If guns don't kill people, people kill people, then certainly congress can accept that software doesn't pirate copyrighted works, people pirate copyrighted works.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by dheera »

Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

Why github/dmca? Why not e.g. tensorflow or numpy or some other package that people actually depend on?

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by jcranmer »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
jcranmer wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't. If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then t…

RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft, and make every developer who already hates their guts to pick up the pitchforks and march. They won't try doing it.

I doubt they'd fear the PR backlash. They didn't fear it before SOPA, and even when SOPA was defeated, it was largely because the backlash was driven by efforts by sites like Wikipedia, Facebook, and Google advertising counter-SOPA messaging, and that drives far more traffic than sites like GitHub.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by nimbius »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25
Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

>I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub.

You're not wrong. Sure, the cloudflare browser checks and antibot pages on gitlab are aggravating, but there are a litany of documented reasons people are walking away from Microsofts latest acquisition. maybe the biggest one is the ICE contract they ardently refused to back out of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#Controversies

Its also pretty obvious MS doesnt check any of these DMCA claims, and just rubber stamps the commits with an insulting and sterile "Process DMCA request" commit msg.

gitea and github both host splendidly inside kubernetes or standalone.

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