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Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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Does anyone have any more info? The article only says that he died, and then nothing else. It’s two sentences long. Whoever he was, he at least deserves a summary of his achievements.

It’s likely because he’s been assumed dead for years and most major publications have covered his story expecting him to die any day now (if he wasn’t already) over the last couple years.

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to many he’s been dead since then, and his heir has just been trying to keep it all hidden because SK’s inheritance taxes could threaten the family’s majority stake in the business.

So is this the heir "buying the dip"? Staging the death at the moment in which the inheritance is likely to have the lowest market value?

Precisely.

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #9

What a brutal way to go. It has been widely speculated that he has been in a vegetative state since 2014, kept on life support to give the company time to restructure its assets and consolidate power under Lee Kun-Hee's son, Lee Jae-yong, so that their family's power persists even in the wake of paying South Korea's enormous wealth taxes. Samsung undoubtedly played a key role in South Korea's economic ascendance, but…

One could only hope to be so useful even when nearly dead.

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd expect them to be able to finance paying the taxes with an equity collateralised loan. If not the entire tax bill, at least a big chunk of it.

Seems that more leverage and more debt is in fact the answer to everything. BRB, need to take a second mortgage to buy more equity index funds. I will then use the fund shares as a collateral for another loan, and you get the idea. I wonder why hasn't anyone thought of it yet! Time for a YC application!

Step 1 - get as many loans, credit card debt, financing etc.

Step 2 - spend all the cash to buy bitcoin

Step 3 - bankruptcy

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/obituaries/lee-kun-hee-di...

> In 1995, as part of the emphasis on quality, he visited a Samsung plant in the town of Gumi after a batch of cellphones was found to be defective. > [...] > Together they watched as $50 million worth of phones, fax machines and other inventory was smashed to bits and set ablaze. The employees wept.

Interesting, in a documentary (puff piece) by Singapore-based news organisation CNA, I heard a near identical story about faulty fridges made by the China-based manufacturer Haier [1] being smashed by their workers in a similar way in 1984 after an order by CEO Zhang Ruimin: https://youtu.be/WK7mxBy1fNw?t=594

Sounds like it's a a common strategy for low-quality manufacturers trying to improve themselves (other than Kaizen / The Toyota Way)

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd expect them to be able to finance paying the taxes with an equity collateralised loan. If not the entire tax bill, at least a big chunk of it.

Seems that more leverage and more debt is in fact the answer to everything. BRB, need to take a second mortgage to buy more equity index funds. I will then use the fund shares as a collateral for another loan, and you get the idea. I wonder why hasn't anyone thought of it yet! Time for a YC application!

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Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

#27

Does anyone have any more info? The article only says that he died, and then nothing else. It’s two sentences long. Whoever he was, he at least deserves a summary of his achievements.

As per elsewhere in thread: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/24/obituaries/lee-kun-hee-di...

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #20

This reminds me of this tweet: https://twitter.com/oniontaker/status/1214540491577942017

50% Inheritance tax would do wonders in the US. Honestly if you want the best people at the top then no one should start with a billion dollar advantage.

Or you could have the unintended consequence of zombie executives wandering the earth until it's in their family's economic interest to declare them dead and bury them in the ground.

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

#29

This reminds me of this tweet: https://twitter.com/oniontaker/status/1214540491577942017

Wow - "Enter Korean tax code. Korea has 50% inheritance tax on assets above $2.5m. When Lee Gunhee dies, his family will owe the government $7b. The family will have to sell personal stakes of Samsung-controlled assets, weakening the strong, complex investment structure they built." That's pretty impactful in terms of potentially forcing the family to sell off control, isn't it?

If the theory is true, then the fact that they're announcing his death now means that they've finally put themselves in a position where they can pay the tax bill without giving up control of Samsung.

Re: Samsung group chairman Lee Kun-hee has died

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% Inheritance tax would do wonders in the US. Honestly if you want the best people at the top then no one should start with a billion dollar advantage.

Or you could have the unintended consequence of zombie executives wandering the earth until it's in their family's economic interest to declare them dead and bury them in the ground.

My understanding is that this only happened in this case because Samsung is "too big to fail" for the Korean economy. Kia, LG, and Samsung combined make up 2/3rds of the economy.

Worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRzysFhyZ8Y (@11:45 they talk about TBTF)

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