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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by sova »

How is it not profitable to stream music at a premium? The Spotify guy is worth 7 billion with little to show for the modern music artist.

Also, a huge "wtf" from me for:

>I do not want to pay for a streaming service and would like to buy individual songs & albums instead. How can I do this on YouTube Music?

>While you cannot purchase music from YouTube Music, you can do so from another store and upload that music into YouTube Music. This way, you can have your entire music library in one place. Note that you can play uploaded songs in the background, ad-free and offline with a free YouTube Music subscription.

Nice, I can upload my music to your service, and pay you to access music I paid for already? How's that expression go? "Smooth move, ex-lax."

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by the_unknown »

I absolutely hate how YouTube music doesn't understand that I am using it for music... not music videos.

"Hey Google, play my music" on a Nest Hub in the kitchen so I can listen to something while cooking used to play music - now it often (but not always) insists on running whatever crazy video it found for my tunes.

I simply don't watch music videos. I have no interest in them. I don't like that they joined together my music and misc YouTube clicks together.

I'm now looking for an alternative. I just want what I had before. Listen to music and skip the videos so I can cook in peace.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

echelon wrote: post #217
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Wait are you losing your purchases? As in, you don't get to download a copy of the album?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by salamanderman »

HeadsUpHigh wrote: post #333
echelon wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Wait are you losing your purchases? As in, you don't get to download a copy of the album?

You definitely do get to download them. My spouse and I did it.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by ashtonkem »

asveikau wrote: post #317
echelon wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

> your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. Having worked at a some megacorps, I can tell you this strategy is not going to give you personal success at that company.

There’s a damn good chance that lots of people up the chain secretly think that too, but they don’t see any alternative to just putting one foot in front of the other.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by [deleted] »

TuringNYC wrote: post #305
homero wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

I realize we're talking about music and google here, but i'm curious how people feel about Audible and Kindle? I made a fairly large bet on Audble+Kindle because we ran out of space in our home for books (as well as the portability.) Our entire library is now on Kindle with elaborate notes -- how big a risk do you think this is? (to compare risks, btw, in the past my past home got majorly flooded (Hurricane Sandy) an…

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by ashtonkem »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #299

Wow, reading all of these comments, it's really striking to me how Google has basically no consumer goodwill left. Obviously this is a biased sample, but it's kind of amazing to me how a company that was admired and beloved not too long ago is just reviled now: by governments, by their users, by their customers (i.e. advertisers). I really have to wonder what morale is like in Google-land. So much of their corporate…

Last time I looked, their median retention for employees was painfully low, like 1.1 years low. So I doubt morale is good. But it doesn’t matter if you have buckets of cash to throw around, you can trivially replace burnt out engineers with new ones, since recruiting is made much easier with big numbers.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by ashtonkem »

harisund wrote: post #313
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #299

Wow, reading all of these comments, it's really striking to me how Google has basically no consumer goodwill left. Obviously this is a biased sample, but it's kind of amazing to me how a company that was admired and beloved not too long ago is just reviled now: by governments, by their users, by their customers (i.e. advertisers). I really have to wonder what morale is like in Google-land. So much of their corporate…

I hope you are kidding. When you are getting money the amounts Google pays their employees, you couldn't care less if everyone in the world says "we hate you, you suck" Plus, once you have Google on your resume, it's hard to imagine a company that will reject you so ... again, no one cares if they are hated.

This is an incredibly naive view of how morale works. Money is only temporarily protective against the psychological effects of a bad job.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by shajznnckfke »

strawberrypuree wrote: post #323
shajznnckfke wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story I’ve heard is that way more people are using YouTube for music listening than ever used Play Music, and that didn’t seem to be changing any time soon, so it doesn’t make sense to put any more resources toward Play Music.

So the lesson is: if you use Google products, you better hope you use them the way most people do, otherwise the company will take it away from you. This is what it means to be a company with no vision.

I think the world would be a worse place if every product ever made was supported forever. There would be nobody left to work on making things better.
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