Any idea who's behind the data theft? I'm much more interested in that...
The REAL anonymous.
Well any criminal would not want to be identified.
Sony: All personal data stolen from PSN
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't read this as a defense of the company, but there hasn't really been a single, monolithic Sony for decades. Sony Music Entertainment, perpetrators of 2005's rootkit debacle, is pretty far removed from Sony Computer Entertainment, the division responsible for Playstation. Sony Electronics, makers of TVs, home theater systems, and Walkmans, is another silo, as is Sony Pictures. Of course, every act of incompetence…
Not to mention that Sony BMG was a 50% joint venture with Bertelsmann and I don't recall many people boycotting magazines or books at the time.
Sigh. The CDs said "Sony." That means "Sony" is the party responsible for the rootkit. The goodwill (or lack thereof) accrues entirely to Sony.
As a consumer, I'm not the least bit interested in a detailed breakdown of the corporate structure. Sony pays brand managers very well to encourage me to think of it as a single monolithic company, and I'm happy to oblige.
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#223http://psx-scene.com/forums/f177/sony-has-been-bad-boy-ridic... "A well known hacker i don’t want to reveal here had all the Sony PlayStation Network functions 100% decrypted as well as providing some nice info about how Sony dealing with PSN members privacy in their online servers. Apparently, Sony server gathered everything they can from the PSN connected PS3 console. When i said everything, i meant it. Here, i mak…
> Credit card sent as plain text
This was debunked. It's encrypted on the wire.
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#224This seems like a really big argument for never allowing your data to be stored by a 3rd party. Does anyone see any reason why these companies should do anything other than store the data locally on your system, encrypted/obfuscated, and then only ever send once, via encrypted connection, and then immediately delete the info remotely? I mean, if someone breaks in to my house and steals my PS3, they already have acces…
Much of ecommerce would go down the drain, if they got rid of remote storage of your details. No recurring billing, no "One-Click", no address books, etc...
So your PS3 couldn't just deliver the data it has, and the server couldn't delete it after it's done?
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to mention that Sony BMG was a 50% joint venture with Bertelsmann and I don't recall many people boycotting magazines or books at the time.
Sigh. The CDs said "Sony." That means "Sony" is the party responsible for the rootkit. The goodwill (or lack thereof) accrues entirely to Sony. As a consumer, I'm not the least bit interested in a detailed breakdown of the corporate structure. Sony pays brand managers very well to encourage me to think of it as a single monolithic company, and I'm happy to oblige.
You sigh too quickly. The CDs said "Sony BMG." The merger with BMG was in March of 2004 and the rootkit was in 2005. The reason you associate it with Sony corporate and not Bertelsmann (of Bertelsmann Music Group) is because reporters are lazy and shorten the name of the company to just Sony. Maybe Germans were boycotting magazines because that was the part of the name familiar to them. I don't recall that.
Its fair for you to say you're not interested. However, if you're going to try to boycott a company to punish them for their behavior, being aware of exactly who is responsible is a good place to start.
Bertelsmann was just as aggressive with music protection. They had to issue replacement CDs that had anti-rip software to annoyed customers in 2001 for instance. The executive in charge at the time of the fiasco came over to Sony BMG from Bertelsmann.
I worked closely with some of the people involved in it at Sony BMG. One lesson I took away from it all was that even though it was a 50-50 merger, Sony had way more name recognition and therefore more on the line. As you said, they benefit from the goodwill disproportionately and they also took the brunt of the PR damage.
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#226I'm just glad I got my Steam PC code from my Portal 2 disc activated just before PSN went offline.
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
People want to play God of War, Little Big Planet and Gran Turismo. I think Sony could do just about anything and stay in business. As sad as that is, it's probably true.
Why oh why did they buy Media Molecule. It sucks I have to chose between playing such awesome games and keeping my privacy and financial information safe. PS3 is the last Sony product I'll ever buy.
Mm was nearly fully Sony-funded pre buyout. Sony put a lot in to start that studio and also published LBP1, so it's not horribly surprising that they acquired them once it was revealed that Mm would be more than an indie fluke of a business.
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#228This brings back memories of the Gawker breach, but Sony seemed so much more legitimate. It can happen to the best of companies, I guess. This is the worst security hack I've ever witnessed.
This spells for Sony, yes, but even worse for the uncountable people whose credit card numbers just got nabbed. One hacker on the loose...
The worst part is that this public breach is only a single event. All the companies that have our information could be hacked and Sony is only a visible example. It's similar to the BP oil spill: what other oil companies weren't running tight rigs? The disasters happened to BP and Sony, yes, but it is a reflection on their industries.
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#229I think a lot of us are missing the big picture; thankfully not Tgebbs (see comment 22).
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know, right? Reading through the comments on that post, the "you should have told us this last week" comments are just about balanced out by the "why are you wasting time with this instead of getting the PSN back online" comments.
The problem is audience: Kids don't give a shit. Privacy is crap, they got their penis pictures on facebook. They want their fucking video games. People playing games all day don't give a shit. They want their fucking games, stfu privacy and get moar kof33 and fucking get this shit online. People with money to lose care. They care that their information is stolen because that could lead to their money being stolen. P…
If you care enough about information then sony being compromised shouldn't be a threat to you. How come no one is talking about Anonymous' role in this? Unless you are a Sony exec you shouldn't be too concerned about anything but finding another device to watch netflix on.