Not the first and won't be the last time this has happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
West gets moral high ground not because it's blameless - it isn't - but because it's faults are smaller. It could be counterproductive to judge something on a boolean scale - "perfect" vs. "not perfect so perfectly bad". West is much more transparent than non-West, so we have better chance to differentiate good parts from bad parts. If we don't have such opportunity, and we consistently get burned with bad parts, we'…
You can only say this because you've been brainwashed into thinking all the atrocities committed before, say, 1950 don't count anymore. That was a different time! Racism is solved too. *edit, that should probably be 1975 because we pretend the Vietnam war never happened
Plus 4-5 government topplings, invasions, and occupations in the last 20 years. But that's "in the past" too.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Maybe if you believed in your argument you’d reply with your real account, not a green one. Looking at his karma which is barely anything in all accounts likely he has no real account. Also the usage of other accounts is likely a symptom of a post limit. Either he can respond to you with another account, or he can ignore you because he can't respond with the same account. Either way these actions are not sanctioned…
I am not defending the wars the USA has had. I also feel that the number of collateral damage in the past two decades has been absurd and unjustified. I did not vote for the man who allowed drone strikes on children. Thankfully, the United States has made an effort in the past four years to leave the Middle East. Nevertheless, this does not justify the actions of the CCP eradicating a whole culture and it’s people. T…
I never justified it. Nothing was justified here at all. There was also no argument made by me. Nor did I say you were defending the US. All I asked was a question:
What action should you take if there are repeated terrorist acts happening in your country where people are slaughtered by the hundreds? You only know the origin of these terror attacks originate from a specific cultural ethnic group, and you know you need to stop the attacks now or the next attack could harm your family.
It's a hard question, but posing a hard question isn't a justification of of the atrocities committed by China. It's more of an illustration of the complexity of the situation and an illustration of the darker capabilities that can erupt from within every individual when the situation is extreme... Anyway the question still stands... what would you do?
The other part of the of the question is to help people rise to a higher level and analyze the full complexity of the situation rather than have a simple minded gut reaction to everything. The world is complex and no single action can really be placed in a "justified" box or an "unjustified" box, yet this is how people think.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
Educate yourself. Reddit r/sino is a great place to read the opposition. There are ALWAYs two sides to these stories. Many are fabricated to apply for diplomatic immunity. Uighers represent a very small minority of the overall Chinese population, but almost all domestic terrorism (when the campaign against their culture started in 2014). Yes, their religious culture is being attacked, yes many (most) are good people,…
Yours is possibly the most vile comment I think I've ever read on this website.
I guess you feel the same about what Macron is doing?
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yours is possibly the most vile comment I think I've ever read on this website.
I guess you feel the same about what Macron is doing?
I am not well-versed in the details of Macron is doing regards Islam in France, but I am certain that he is not committing genocide, which is what the CCP is doing, and what the OP is defending. Like arguing that the Nazis were doing the jews a favour with the holocaust. Beyond, beyond, beyond ludicrous. I don't even know where to begin with the idea that the victims of genocide benefit in any way from said genocide.
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#236I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?
I am very uncomfortable reading it. Can you provide me a euphemistic account of it?
Genocide.
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#237CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
As long as 95% of the people in the US keep on buying items with their wallets open, and we're distracted with our own internal strife, what hope is there to counter this? Our leadership certainly isn't up to standing against this sort of thing these days.
Addressing indiviuals for group behaviour is bullshit.
It's pointless. Actions that address the result of group behaviour need to come from the group (government). All else is just grandstanding.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Where did India get into the picture here ? The only protests going in India are those which are against government initiatives to help minorities. Interestingly, you didn't mention Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc. where minorities are actually being killed, raped or converted.
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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#239I don’t know how authentic this is. Last time a person did something like this on Reddit AMA was a CIA operative. https://www.reddit.com/r/LegitJustNoMIL/comments/e9xxry/be_c...
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#240I don't know what to say or describe my feelings after reading that article -- How can we help ?
Stop buying China made goods and educate your family members to do so as well. This is good starting point
Is that even possible?
What is made in the US that doesn't buy raw materials or partially assembled materials from china?