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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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The Bidens and by extension the Democrats have extensive business connections with China.

The Trump's and by extension the Republicans have extensive business connections with China. So what? Elon Musk and by extension SpaceX (aka future of large portion U.S. space travel) has extensive business connections with China. So what?

>So what?

It's a problem, all the way around.

Not inherently, should at least raise questions.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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So like Guantanamo, the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and close to a century of Kissinger and his ilk, is added to one's karma if they buy US products?

Exactly. The problem is, the West gets a moral high ground and even if they get criticism for their actions, the highest repercussions they encounter is "a slap to the wrist".

Perhaps you should think about why, when faced with evidence of an atrocity, your reaction is not "this is horrible and should be stopped" but "look at all these hypocrites denouncing the horrible thing". It seems to me a serious moral miscalibration.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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This is horrible. No doubt this is an allergic immune response to terrorism. The actions here on a different level than what's going on in Hong Kong, possibly because of this: "In July 2009, riots broke out in Xinjiang in response to a violent dispute between Uyghur and Han Chinese workers in a factory and result in over 100 deaths. Following the riots, Uyghur radicals killed dozens of Chinese citizens in coordinated…

> This is horrible. No doubt this is an allergic immune response to terrorism. That was the start of Chinese persecution of the Uyghurs, but the current leadership in China has adopted a broad policy of persecuting racial minorities. I'm not sure what their ultimate motivations are but they are targeting many, if not most, of China's non-Han ethnic groups without regard to whether they pose a terrorism risk or not.

Curious, yeah this is interesting. The powers gained to quell the terrorism seem to be getting used to fulfill ulterior motives, not to different from the presidential powers gained after 9/11. Seems to be a common phenomenon.

Do you have a source where I can start reading more about this stuff?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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My guess would be politics. Congress in the US is democratically controlled while the Senate and Presidency are republican controlled. The current administration is fairly anti-Muslim and has ignored the Uighar issues entirely, the current administration likely told the State Department not to issue the visa.

In the US, "Congress" is both the House of Representatives and the Senate, not just the House.

The House of Representatives is often colloquially referred to as "congress" don't ask me why even though that's the name of the bicameral body.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Why 39 minutes old submission with 148 up-votes is ranked 13th on the HN front page? The first entry at this moment is a 41 minutes old submission with 43 points, the 2nd entry is 59 minutes old with 35 points. Is this because this post is heavily flagged?

censorship is going on in the comments too

Downvotes are not censorship. Half a decade of smart-ass comments like yours have robbed the word of any meaning.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

I am very uncomfortable reading it. Can you provide me a euphemistic account of it?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

Not allow @dang and HN to shadowban “flame war” topics in the name of decorum.

This normalizes decorum over inconvenient truths.

@dang shadowbanned me for accurately discussing the propaganda warfare happening in US vs China relations, and the way current neo-Marxist riots tie into a long history of subversive movements.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.

Have my upvote, but honestly don't expect too much from UN.

They are the ones who turned a blind eye to Rwanda and gave the guy who sold the guns a top job, aren't they?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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I'm in complete and utter disbelief reading this. How can stuff like this be happening in 2020? I mean this seriously but as a lowly computer programmer is there any way we can help these poor people other than offer our sympathy?

Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.

Wow, this is a really poor proposal.

Intervening in another's country internal affairs leads to a war. UN is a nice idea, though it doesn't work in reality. To apply for an asylum, you need to leave the country. Low likelyhood of happening.

I explain why its wrong to my kids. What then?

As sad as it is, we can't do much if anything.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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censorship is going on in the comments too

Downvotes are not censorship. Half a decade of smart-ass comments like yours have robbed the word of any meaning.

There is censorship on HN... not only downvotes and flagging... sometimes admins move entire threads wherever they want too... There is also the opposite of censorship (they boost some content)
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