I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

Post by throwaway_pdp09 » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 5:09 PM UTC

akiselev wrote: post #72

DevKoala wrote: post #50

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What does that have to do with the suffering of Uighur people?

The last time the human race stopped an industrial scale genocide, half the world had to unite under their own selfish reasons. That's no longer possible thanks to nuclear weapons, so our battle will have to be fought first with introspection and reflection. We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty and causing even more collateral damage, so the best we can do is onc…

Post by Mxs2000 » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 5:10 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #92

iaw wrote: post #30

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My guess would be politics. Congress in the US is democratically controlled while the Senate and Presidency are republican controlled. The current administration is fairly anti-Muslim and has ignored the Uighar issues entirely, the current administration likely told the State Department not to issue the visa.

The Bidens and by extension the Democrats have extensive business connections with China.

Post by throwaway_pdp09 » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 5:11 PM UTC

akiselev wrote: post #97

shripadk wrote: post #85

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> We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty and causing even more collateral damage, so the best we can do is once again find our principles Yes we can. Boycott CCP controlled businesses, their manufactured goods and services. Ensure strict sanctions are levied on CCP members. Ban travel of CCP members to and from countries that respect the rule of Law. But nope. We w…

An embargo is a national, legally mandated boycott that carries penalties up to and including prison time. If your personal boycotts help make you feel better about the ongoing genocide, that's great! I, for one, would prefer a solution that works.

Post by CyberDildonics » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 5:13 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #93

glial wrote: post #81

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There's a reasonable argument to be made against the parent, but "what about" isn't it.

I find "whataboutism is not an argument" is a knee-jerk conditioned reaction against putting things in perspective. It's almost a Pavlovian thought-stopping response by now - "sure, we have faults but we know them already, can we now concentrate on treating the enemy as some unique evil again?".

Post by ak39 » Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #96

ak39 wrote: post #59

Criticizing the Chinese government's actions for their treatment of the Uighurs will invite state-sponsored "cancel culture" - not just from China but also from the western democratic nations that acquiesce to Chinese whims. This is incredible - look at the life of the professional football player Ozil who was effectively forced to leave Arsenal for his comments on this very subject. Criticizing China should NOT be c…

Or you could look at this chap and his experiences in an Australian university: https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/14/i-criticized-my-univers...