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An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

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Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

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If we really want them to see shouldn't they be tweeting this instead or may be in India post it on WhatsApp. Kidding aside, its going to be really tough to wean people off social media. It will be the defining problem of the world going forward. Things only get worse from here. There will be woke people who get off of the internet but not woke population.

> If we really want them to see shouldn't they be tweeting this instead or may be in India post it on WhatsApp.

The letter is for parents and old people.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#112
post #86

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What is it liberating you from? Your own empowerment?

Basically yeah, but I would rephrase it as liberation from constant reliance, or from always having the perfect answer, from a lessened use of ones mind, from necessary human interaction to ask anyone a question, or from spending any precious second not maximizing the amount of information and "productivity" you can achieve. It's about being a human, in an environment, around other humans, with time to spare for orig…

I think there’s an assumption that if you’re using your phone regularly you’re never taking the time to have human experiences. For all but perhaps the most avoidant, I don’t think that happens in practice.

I walk alone for 1-3 hours a day. Usually I wear headphones and listen to podcasts or the economist audio - I have learned a lot about the world this way. You could argue it is just entertainment, but I suppose my old CS lectures were just entertainment, too. Having audio content helps make the walks more bearable, and those walks have helped me lose over 100 lbs of unwanted body fat.

Sometimes I take the headphones out to enjoy the sights and sounds. Sometimes I pause and enjoy the views for a while. If I see someone I want to talk to, I stop, take the headphones out, and talk. There’s no binary choice and I find that by sparing me actual reading time, this practice gives me more time to spend on things I care about. I do enjoy the nature exposure, but I don’t need 3 hours a day of focus on it - it really just doesn’t change much day to day or year to year.

I wish living in a perfectly smooth chrome existence was an option, but it isn’t. My phone and the internet fail often enough that I still regularly need to call a real human and talk. The maps are wonderful, but they still require a degree of interpretation, like when a rail line is closed and the shuttle replacement isn’t listed. Just the other day I had to bother an airport employee to figure out where that shuttle pick up was. Having had that experience I don’t think it makes me better.

I have empathy for unnecessarily difficult situations, that doesn’t make me want to maximize the existence of those. It motivates me to build better software, do better work, and contribute more to public efforts to make the world a better place for humans.

Again, there’s no binary choice, people should use every tool at their disposal to maximize their happiness. I’ve got a perfectly good phone, but I walked the streets of a new city for 13 miles, soaking in the sights and sounds, and making minimal use of my phone, checking every few miles to make sure I didn’t overshoot my targets (parks and botanical gardens).

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#113

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You’ve never got to a store only to realize they are closed on Mondays or something?

If such an event has ruined your life, I wager that you have bigger or more systemic problems going on than not being able to buy a stick of butter from Cooper's Grocery on a particular day. The capacity of being flexible is valuable. Yes, having the world in your pocket is valuable when something jumps up and goes "boo". However, most people should not need to Google-search "what do I do after 'boo'?" every single t…

Ruined my life? Of course not. Annoyed me? Yes. Having a product that enables me to avoid that annoyance is nice.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#114
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You're already looking too deeply into this. Just create, call yourself a creator and call your output content. Don't think about it too much.

Got it, I'm a creator of comment-section content.

Now you're ready for merchandising.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#115

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If such an event has ruined your life, I wager that you have bigger or more systemic problems going on than not being able to buy a stick of butter from Cooper's Grocery on a particular day. The capacity of being flexible is valuable. Yes, having the world in your pocket is valuable when something jumps up and goes "boo". However, most people should not need to Google-search "what do I do after 'boo'?" every single t…

Ruined my life? Of course not. Annoyed me? Yes. Having a product that enables me to avoid that annoyance is nice.

Considered the opportunity cost? Or would any annoyance justify any solution, whatever the downsides?

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#116

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The phone as a device appears to definitely be biased towards consumption rather than production. Another message to add about creativity: don't forget about building real physical things. It is great to have digital wealth, but we also need physical stuff and society seems more and more detached from the creation of this physical stuff, which strikes me as a worrying trend.

> It is great to have digital wealth, but we also need physical stuff and society seems more and more detached from the creation of this physical stuff, which strikes me as a worrying trend. I’m sorry, what exactly is “digital wealth” supposed to mean?

wealth - plentiful supplies of a particular resource

digital - involving or relating to the use of computer technology

In this context, they presumably mean the abundance of resources that exist solely or primarily in the digital realm. Social media, Youtube, streaming services, and software / data in general as opposed to physical things like cars, houses, consumer goods, etc.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#117

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Ruined my life? Of course not. Annoyed me? Yes. Having a product that enables me to avoid that annoyance is nice.

Considered the opportunity cost? Or would any annoyance justify any solution, whatever the downsides?

What opportunity cost? Why is it impossible for me to conclude that possessing a smartphone does not cause me any harm? There is a persistent rhetoric among online technologists that people are wrong for making different value judgements. Some people don't like that their phone stores a record of their movements. That's fine. But people who disagree can do so for reasons other than ignorance.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#118
"smartphone" doesn't destroys anyone. It's the "how" someone chose to use it.. I'm a programmer, from India, learned to code from the Internet, spend most of the time in front of the screen, and I guess, it would've been better if the letter suggested some ways to prevent the "destruction".

Step 1: Turn off the notifications, will help you take control. Step 2: stay away from the Facebook empire.

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Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#119
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And we'll adjust, as we always do. It's fine to have this discussion, but the position that it can "destroy you" and comparing it to a lethal dosage of mercury is on the extreme end of the discussion.

>And we'll adjust, as we always do I don't understand this line of thinking. Sure, it may not be the literal end of the world, but that doesn't mean that it won't cause a lot of damage before people 'adapt'. People have always adapted to wars, but that doesn't mean that the world wars weren't absolutely catastrophic. And while I don't think that smartphones will 'destroy you', I think there's a good chance that it ca…

How do you feel about television?

At least there's some ability to interact with a smartphone, there's absolutely none of that with TV, and yet society survived.

Re: An open letter to India’s youth: Get off that smartphone. It can destroy you

#120
Didn't the inventors of the smartphone and internet startups do exactly what the author is suggesting? How would those ventures be successful without a large segment of the population addicted to the products they provide? Let us not overly worship the power of creativity. While creativity can produce the smartphone it also produces the consequences of smartphones being successful.
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