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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by im_down_w_otp »

sdenton4 wrote: post #200
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #113

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>Plus, YTM lets you do background music or videos, which is not something you could ever really do with GPM It doesn't. It forces you to watch videos (if you're steaming to your home stereo or other casting enabled device) and prioritizes the video versions of everything, even if the video isn't officially from the artist and us just some random person's resubmission. The user experience is almost impossibly terrible…

(There's an option in the settings to turn videos off and just play album versions of songs.)

It doesn't apply to when you're casting things to a Chromecast via Google Assistant on a Google Home device.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by darthrupert »

I bought some albums when I was using google for everything with the thought that I'm buying the equivalent of a physical CD but without the irritating extra physical item.

That was a stupid thought, of course. Everything's kinda temporary in the new economy. That said, Apple has been pretty damned stable on this area.

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Post by polytely »

onion2k wrote: post #214
ehsankia wrote: post #179

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Even if could only get music, I still don't want meme songs like Gangnam Style and What does the Fox say as actual songs I listen to.

I'm curious to know what you think should happen to those. They are songs after all, and some people liked them because they actually do like them as songs, so how would Google determine what reason you liked them for? Are you suggesting Google shouldn't bring likes for certain songs over to YT music because you liked them 'as memes' rather than as music?

Just let the Google Music import create a separate playlist called "Google Music Favourites". that took me 2 seconds of thinking, surely the overpaid 'talent' at Google can come up with a better idea that their current 'fix'?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by polytely »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #164

Given that Google Play Music was the default app for "I just want to play that folder full of MP3s on my phone", and YouTube Music really isn't handling that use case well, what other player do people use/recommend for this? I don't care about online features. Folder, mp3, maybe a m3u/m3u8 file, play. Simple.

On Android I really like Black Player, it's one of the few apps I've actually bought. It's fast and has a really good UI.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by andybak »

harshitaneja wrote: post #95
xiphias2 wrote: post #76

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I just read that YTM has only 256 bit AAC just like YouTube. Going down in audio quality is a step in the wrong direction. There's just no point in installing 5G in so many countries when the encoding bit rates are going down for services.

Non audiophiles don't require more than 256kbps which is about the highest you can do for AAC anyway. Sure 320kbps can on some occasions be better on consumer hardware but I am not sure most will notice a difference. So maybe 320kbps but I am really skeptical of people who need more. Obviously there is a lot more to digital audio than bitrate.

Pretty sure I remember Hydrogen Audio did a bunch of ABX tests that showed nobody (including so-called "golder ears") could distinguish 160kbps (or maybe it was 192) VBR MP3 from uncompressed - assuming a good encoder was used.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by oriesdan »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #149
oriesdan wrote: post #41

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I entirely stopped using streaming services and now buy and download my music from Bandcamp, using webradios to discover new titles (my personal favorite is the webradio Nordic Lodge Copenhagen, SomaFM also has a lot of good thematic radios). I don't have any trouble listening to my collection when internet gets spotty, I can have real full shuffle on my collection without hearing always the same titles coming again…

I've done the same but my problem is that a lot of artists (labels?) only made their songs available to purchase on itunes and google music. Now there's only itunes which of course only works with the native app and doesn't have Linux support.

Well, as far as I'm concern, if they only provide content with DRM, then piracy is fair game. I pondered for a time if I should buy the content on abusive platforms and then download it illegally without DRMs, but I decided that respect must go both way. Just to be clear, I pay for a lot of music every week and I even give a lot every months to charities, this is not about money and my difficulty to part with it. Ultimately, I very rarely use piracy anyway because when I have to, I lose respect for artists and don't want to listen to them anymore (it's not me making it political, it's just a feeling that happens when I realize the artist will force spyware on me). The only content I download through piracy is from long dead artists, mostly (they didn't chose to only be available with DRM).

That being said, I've been surprised how common it is to find albums on Bandcamp or bands' own sites. It may be the music I listen to (I try to never limit me to a few "genres", but I very commonly listen to music with small audience). I guess fees asked by platforms have something to do with it too.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by [deleted] »

darthrupert wrote: post #243

I bought some albums when I was using google for everything with the thought that I'm buying the equivalent of a physical CD but without the irritating extra physical item. That was a stupid thought, of course. Everything's kinda temporary in the new economy. That said, Apple has been pretty damned stable on this area.

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by wesleywt »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

The tinnitus masking video I used to sleep is now in my liked playlist.

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Post by PopeDotNinja »

cageface wrote: post #186
banaana wrote: post #154

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Apple Music has filled that need for me quite well

This is the main reason I prefer it to Spotify.

I don’t understand why Spotify won’t let me downvote music. At least I haven’t figured out how yet.
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