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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

I have a Pixel phone and pay for Google Play Music since I have a large collection that I have uploaded. It's been extremely disappointing. I have tried switching to Youtube Music but the interface sucks. I'm tempted to switch over to the iPhone since I'm already unhappy with Google in other areas (showing news articles repeatedly for health issues that I searched for one time, not allowing me to turn off gmail for a…

I've been on Android since the first Android phones and also pay for GPM. I'm moving to Apple. I'm sick of Google's approach to user services.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I just removed my Google Home devices and migrated my music service to Tidal because of this whole YouTube Music debacle. Went like this: 1. Suddenly my Google Home would only use YouTube Music when playing to the Chromecast on my TV. 2. YouTube Music, among a bunch of other terrible UX issues around how it considers music to be organized/related, has the extremely annoying quality of always playing videos of the mus…

100% agree. I'm moving my family to Apple.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Even if could only get music, I still don't want meme songs like Gangnam Style and What does the Fox say as actual songs I listen to.

I'm curious to know what you think should happen to those. They are songs after all, and some people liked them because they actually do like them as songs, so how would Google determine what reason you liked them for?

Are you suggesting Google shouldn't bring likes for certain songs over to YT music because you liked them 'as memes' rather than as music?

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I thought I'd never leave the Google Play subscription, it was by far the best value covering both Play music + ad-free YouTube. But with this move I'll be switching over to an Apple One subscription once available later in the year.

Google Play is simple, clean with syncing that just works everywhere I need to access it with a simple checkmark to specify which playlists I want downloaded that worked well in offline mode. Now I'm being forced into using a new music web, mobile & car play apps which prioritizes music videos? I don't think so.

I don't know which bean counters are responsible for this decision but I can't imagine the cost of maintaining a skeleton crew to upkeep a frozen service would be more than the irreparable harm done to its millions of customers being forced to a use a service they don't want to, who'll be using it as an inflection point for deciding which Service they'd prefer to use instead.

I'll still be keeping the ad-free YouTube for the near future, but it went from being indispensable to being the next subscription on the chopping block if my time on YouTube wanes further. I'm already spending more of my time on Twitch, that if the move to Apple Music is well received by the family I'll be leaving Google Play entirely over this.

You can also bet my trust for investing in using new Google services is also shot at this point, I'd rather put my time and resources into a customer focused alternative than the disregard Google has shown its long time customers, time and again.

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And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

Figures it doesn't work. They don't care.

To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager.

With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears are confirmed. Google never intended to be a good custodian.

Google shits whatever goodwill it establishes right down the toilet. They do it at every turn.

Before Google's music subscription product, I bought a lot of music on the service. And now they're deleting it all. All of my playlists and listening history is disappearing. That's not a good feeling.

Screw you, Google.

After the DOJ takes your illegal money printing machine away, you won't have customers left to go chasing after.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Partially agree,,Google Colabs is outstanding, even though inspired by jupyter notebook. Taking over scientific community

Google Colab has a very very strong Engineering team. Part of Google Research they definetly changed the game when they offer a free product which 1) increased collaboration across ML research 2) offer everybody access to GPUs first K80 and now T4 which is great among researchers and students. Now many other notebooks products now want to be the Enterprise colab version

Isn't colab going away and being replaced by AI Notebooks? At least that's what a GCP partner trainer was telling me...

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.

> I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. They have a positive reputation? I've been a loyal Googler for about 20 years. Nexus, Pixel, Chromecasts, GMail, Fi, Android TV, Google Domains... I'm about done. It seems like every month they do something to make it more apparent that they're just an advertising company. Products fail to get maintained, they get upgrades th…

I'm in a similar boat. I'm not planning on getting the new Pixel though (the Pixel 5 is badly conceived), and too many bad experiences with Samsung mean I'm considering moving to iPhone.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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I thought I'd never leave the Google Play subscription, it was by far the best value covering both Play music + ad-free YouTube. But with this move I'll be switching over to an Apple One subscription once available later in the year. Google Play is simple, clean with syncing that just works everywhere I need to access it with a simple checkmark to specify which playlists I want downloaded that worked well in offline…

My guess is that new contracts meant that the current service would either lose a bunch of money, or not be possible. Maybe because of the upload your own music stuff.
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