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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by skrebbel »

Kliment wrote: post #850

Can we, as a community, cause damage and annoyance to RIAA executives and their member company executives? Here are some ideas: - Ban them from dating sites - Ban their kids from instagram/tiktok/whatever - Have web shops show all items as out of stock for them - Refuse to do business with them or their families, in general - subscribe them to real life spam - send their office envelopes of glitter I'm sure others ca…

Don't do this. This is how gamergaters destroyed people's lives. It starts with a little bit of doxxing and it ends with well meaning humans (who you happen to disagree with) hiding on their high school friend's couch, two states away from their families.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by kmlx »

eli wrote: post #158
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

I think you are misunderstanding the legal argument. The DMCA Section 1201 specifically prohibits (among other things) technology that "is marketed ... for use in circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title." The example in the README is evidence of this. The argument is that youtube-dl is primarily used for breaking DRM not just that it could be used fo…

isn’t DMCA a US law? so why not move youtube-dl outside the US github to a country that doesn’t have DMCA/copyright?

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by names_are_hard »

dvt wrote: post #458

Oh the irony of cloning a banned repo from a Chinese git mirror... c:\Users\david\dev\git λ git clone https://gitee.com/mirrors/youtube-downloader.git Cloning into 'youtube-downloader'... remote: Enumerating objects: 98560, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (98560/98560), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (30542/30542), done. remote: Total 98560 (delta 73037), reused 90045 (delta 66441), pack-reused 0 Receiv…

Thanks for doing God's work here. Had to go all the way to the second page to find a copy to clone.

What a ridiculous thing to ban. I've only ever used youtube-dl to grab copies of videos that I'm in but didn't upload, in the event that those videos were to disappear in the future.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by a_imho »

dredmorbius wrote: post #671

Strategically / tactically, the most interesting aspect of the RIAA attack on youtube-dl to me is that it puts Microsoft on the spot to show its true colours. Is it Friend of Free Software, or Copyright Maximalist?

Agreed, I'm interested to see if there is any merit to the new Microsoft hearts open source.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by dredmorbius »

bergstromm466 wrote: post #832
dredmorbius wrote: post #671

Strategically / tactically, the most interesting aspect of the RIAA attack on youtube-dl to me is that it puts Microsoft on the spot to show its true colours. Is it Friend of Free Software, or Copyright Maximalist?

Yes. And since Microsoft and the RIAA are both in the contrived/artificial scarcity business, it’s pretty obvious to me what it’s going to be. The propertied classes won’t let this crisis pass without using it as an opportunity to further enclose and plunder the commons even more for the working classes.

it’s pretty obvious to me what it’s going to be8

In which case we know, and the "but it's a NEW Microsoft" crowd can pound sand.

I see ... an outside ... case Microsoft's not in the engineered-scarcity racket. I wwouldn't bet the farm, but it could be an interesting side wager.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by Kliment »

skrebbel wrote: post #851
Kliment wrote: post #850

Can we, as a community, cause damage and annoyance to RIAA executives and their member company executives? Here are some ideas: - Ban them from dating sites - Ban their kids from instagram/tiktok/whatever - Have web shops show all items as out of stock for them - Refuse to do business with them or their families, in general - subscribe them to real life spam - send their office envelopes of glitter I'm sure others ca…

Don't do this. This is how gamergaters destroyed people's lives. It starts with a little bit of doxxing and it ends with well meaning humans (who you happen to disagree with) hiding on their high school friend's couch, two states away from their families.

I get that, and yeah it's bad. But there's also a deep frustration with how these fuckers can do this stuff and get away with it. So how does one push back?

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by sneak »

skrebbel wrote: post #851
Kliment wrote: post #850

Can we, as a community, cause damage and annoyance to RIAA executives and their member company executives? Here are some ideas: - Ban them from dating sites - Ban their kids from instagram/tiktok/whatever - Have web shops show all items as out of stock for them - Refuse to do business with them or their families, in general - subscribe them to real life spam - send their office envelopes of glitter I'm sure others ca…

Don't do this. This is how gamergaters destroyed people's lives. It starts with a little bit of doxxing and it ends with well meaning humans (who you happen to disagree with) hiding on their high school friend's couch, two states away from their families.

What GG did was illegal, everything GP suggested is harmless (and legal).

You should not conflate the two.

Creating negative consequences for poor choices in society is a great and effective tool that should be used more often.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Post by mola »

mulmen wrote: post #415
jchw wrote: post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

From the RIAA perspective it seems clear this tool was created to download copywritten material. You can disagree with the law or think the tool has other valid uses but the intent of the tool author seems clear here. The author of the tool should have chosen a better example in the tests to at least maintain plausible deniability.

People use it for many purposes. Researches downloading public domain material etc.

Does any camera manufacturer showing a camera filming a live concert in some promotional video needs to worry?

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