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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by BostonEnginerd »

jcrawfordor wrote: post #161
adi2907 wrote: post #143

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Partially agree,,Google Colabs is outstanding, even though inspired by jupyter notebook. Taking over scientific community

I dunno, I believe Microsoft's Azure Notebooks predates Colab and perhaps gave Google the kick to make it public, and Colab was a spinout of an internal tool with a rather rocky relationship with open source that has still been a pain point I run into using it for teaching ("what is the difference between Colab and Jupyter?" is a question without an especially clear answer). Also they stole the name from GE's old int…

Azure notebooks looks like it's being retired at the beginning of '21.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by 01100011 »

s3r3nity wrote: post #120
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.

> I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point.

They have a positive reputation?

I've been a loyal Googler for about 20 years. Nexus, Pixel, Chromecasts, GMail, Fi, Android TV, Google Domains...

I'm about done. It seems like every month they do something to make it more apparent that they're just an advertising company. Products fail to get maintained, they get upgrades that make them less useful, or they're outright cancelled.

I'm planning on de-Googling a bit soon. I may stick with Android, although iPhones or FOSS options are tempting. I feel like I can't stomach supporting Google when they continue to make misstep after misstep.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by culturestate »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #165
ewmiller wrote: post #73

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FaceTime is very much still a thing, I use it with my family all the time.

Is it more convenient than WhatsApp?

You can make and receive FaceTime calls from any recent Apple device to any recent Apple device (e.g. Mac to iPhone) which is nice, but FaceTime’s real advantage is call quality. It’s noticeably more clear and seems to handle poor/unstable connections much better.

I can FaceTime with people halfway around the world with more clarity than I can talk to someone on the same WiFi network using WhatsApp.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by 01100011 »

Given how utterly terrible YT Music is, I have to think there is an underlying business reason they were forced to do this. Do they save on royalties and licensing by only having one channel for music?

If they didn't bundle YouTube Premium with the music subscription I would have ditched it and switched to Spotify. As it is, I'm considering getting a phone with enough storage and just switching back to mp3s. Google still doesn't understand what music lovers want(like not skipping to the next track abruptly if there is a momentary connection issue).

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by blehn »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

this is changing https://9to5google.com/2020/10/08/youtube-music-liked-settin...

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by likeclockwork »

ehsankia wrote: post #179
patrickaljord wrote: post #109

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I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Even if could only get music, I still don't want meme songs like Gangnam Style and What does the Fox say as actual songs I listen to.

Exactly!

Mixing in the videos is ridiculous. Just because a video contains music doesn't mean it's part of my listening.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by 01100011 »

ozmbie wrote: post #6

How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

> As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products.

You are their product. They sell advertisers access to you. Everything else is a sideshow and they will eventually get bored with it and let it rot. Google has had a lot of good ideas over the years. They let devs create amazing things with the constant flow of ad dollars. But then those cool things don't make as much money as selling ads, and the devs want to move on to create a new thing, so the 300lb idiot baby that is Google wanders off and squats on something else.

I also have to wonder if Google is stuck in the doldrums of being a mid-life startup. Their initial team of rockstars have probably all retired to roll around in their millions. A whole new crop of money and status seeking folks have taken their place. Wall Street is expecting growth every quarter. There is constant pressure to refocus on revenue producers and grow the stock. They seem far detached from their initial roots under Sergey and Larry.

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Post by cbare »

YT music is a downgrade from Google Play Music. The web player for YT music is missing a bunch of features:

- clear queue - multi-select in queue - save queue as playlist - high resolution album covers - play count

It's great to consolidate overlapping products. But, why can't a company with 20,000 engineers bring YT music up to feature parity before killing off the better product?

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

hatsunearu wrote: post #196
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #174

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Thumbs up for uncommon music. I self host an instance of LMS[0] (lightweight music server) authored by HNer epoupon. [0] https://github.com/epoupon/lms

Does this work across the internet? I don't wanna VPN in every time I wanna listen to music :(

It can, I use nginx as the reverse proxy along with Let's Encrypt certificates for HTTPS connectivity. As long as your ISP allows you to forward ports you're good to go.

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Post by syspec »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #165
ewmiller wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FaceTime is very much still a thing, I use it with my family all the time.

Is it more convenient than WhatsApp?

FaceTime is basically a verb at this point, and only growing more usable with Mac to phone conversations and 32 ppl simultaneous support
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