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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by brian_cunnie »

ewmiller wrote: post #59
Vermeulen wrote: post #21

They've had years to fix all the issues people have had with this - and yet everyone still hates it (based on Reddit / App reviews). Playing music offline is broken, browsing playlists is insanely slow, and it lacks so many basic features of GPM/other services (like actual random shuffle and not a smart radio that plays the same 10 songs). Combining Youtube Likes with the music thumbs up makes no sense - I now have l…

I haven’t heard a single consumer express enthusiasm for the switch to YouTube music. Anyone I’ve casually talked to about it is dismissive and doesn’t really understand what it's even trying to be. If anybody has heard anything from a user's perspective that is in favor of this, I would love to hear that argument. Otherwise I can only assume that this was a typical Google move where product people internally pushed…

The switch to YouTube music was the last in a long chain of disappointments from Google, so two weeks ago I switched back to iPhone after 8 years of Android. I really, really wanted to like Android.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by matwood »

s3r3nity wrote: post #120
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.

GPM was my first streaming music service. I subscribed when it was still $7.99. It didn’t get too many updates, but it worked fine for years. Then they started pushing me to YT Music, which IMO is garbage.

I’m happy I realized where they were headed and switched to Apple Music awhile back.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

Remember that you're able to export your Google Play Music data[1] via https://takeout.google.com

At least there's a silver lining...

[1] "A list of the tracks, playlists, radio stations, uploads, and purchases in your Google Play Music library" Key to me was my playlists, including my "Thumbs Up" playlist, which as others have noted is polluted by "Liked" music videos on Youtube in the migration

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

hatsunearu wrote: post #170

Youtube music is absolute garbage. I can't use my youtube account, and I have to use my google account to access my tranferred music. And if I switch to my google account, I am logged out of youtube, and all my subscriptions are gone. I listen to very uncommon music that's not available anywhere to be streamed. Google Play Music was the only solution for streaming all my collection. I am looking for replacements... p…

Thumbs up for uncommon music. I self host an instance of LMS[0] (lightweight music server) authored by HNer epoupon.

[0]https://github.com/epoupon/lms

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by PurpleFoxy »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #165
ewmiller wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FaceTime is very much still a thing, I use it with my family all the time.

Is it more convenient than WhatsApp?

It’s not a Facebook service which is an instant plus

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by jrnichols »

makecheck wrote: post #23
ozmbie wrote: post #6

How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

Apple has had iTunes, and for a time a music “social network” Ping. The original messaging tool was called iChat before it was iMessage. Apple has also had multiple Internet services that were more or less the same (iTools, .Mac, iCloud). Even Contacts used to be called Address Book, and Wallet used to be called Passbook. Google still does worse but renaming things is pretty common.

> Google still does worse but renaming things is pretty common.

Feels like Google has renamed a few things to be too close to Apple's.

Google Wallet became Google Pay. Picasa became Google Photos. also they have Google Drive. Google Messages...

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by [deleted] »

kyrra wrote: post #14
ozmbie wrote: post #6

How is it that Google create/rebrand/close so many music and chat services over the years. While Apple have a single message service (iMessage) and a single music service (Apple Music) that have been consistently branded with constant growth and show no signs of being shut down? As a consumer I have no idea what’s going on with some areas of Google’s products. It’s a major turn off.

(Googler, opinions are my own) Agreed that it is annoying, but its interesting to look back at how we got here. Google Play Music (GPM) launched in 2011. To get music on here, I'm guessing that team had to sign contracts with the various publishers and record studios. The onboarding and licensing terms of those were likely entirely around this music streaming service. Then you have Youtube. It's been a video hub for…

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by ehsankia »

patrickaljord wrote: post #109
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

I have videos of recipes and comic shows in my Liked Music. You would think youtube Google had better AI to detect this kind of stuff. Makes think many of the videos being wrongly censored/demonetized on youtube may really be because of faulty AI detection of the content. I do enjoy the fact that I can get all those live video music available on Youtube and not on any other platform.

Even if could only get music, I still don't want meme songs like Gangnam Style and What does the Fox say as actual songs I listen to.

Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by ehsankia »

axaxs wrote: post #102

Ugh. Unlike some others, my 'migration' worked, but YT Music sucks. Sorry to be blunt and short, but that's how I best describe it. It's in every way worse than GPM for my use. I legally buy songs, and just want to stream them. YT Music is obsessed with, after playing an upload, playing random music with ads in it, rather than say, playing the next upload. The only thing that works without much complaints is a playli…

Google is out of the music purchase business, they no longer have licensing for that. That feature is fully gone.

Out of curiosity, are you a premium member or are you using YTM at free tier? I find the free tier version is much more handicapped compared to GPM, but arguably GPM was very generous comparative to the competition.

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